Episode 114: Disordered Eating Behaviors Your Enneagram Type Might Experience (Enneagrams 5-9)
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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah finish off part 3 of their Enneagram series. Last week, the girls discussed what types of disordered eating habits they might see in Enneagram types 1-4. This week, they’ll analyze Enneagram types 5-9 and what types of disordered eating behaviors they may see depending on your personality type. This is all in good fun!
DISCLAIMER: We are not Enneagram experts. Everything in this episode is speculation
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hello everyone welcome back to another episode of the up-beet dietitians podcast
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hello guys welcome back to part three of our enag series third and final part if
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you missed the last two weeks episodes I think you will be best off if you listen to those for
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listening to this because we are going to be going into anagrams 5 through nine today and discussing how those may be
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impacting your relationship with food in part one of the series we went into our own anagram just talking about our
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personalities basically last week we covered anagrams 1 through four and how those perhaps can impact your
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relationship with food and today is anagrams 5 through n which Emily and I both fit within so it's going to be a
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little bit personalized today we'll see how that goes I'm excited me too it'll
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be good so disclaimer before we go into this we are not anagram experts we are
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dietitians we're nutrition experts not any Grim experts everything we're about to talk about we are just speculating
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but we're going to kind of discuss if you're this anagram type what type of disord eating habits you might
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exhibit yeah let's do a quick rundown of what these anagrams are um and then
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we're going to go into each of them individually so type five is known as the investigator type six is the
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loyalist type seven is the Enthusiast type eight is the Challenger which is
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Emily and type nine is The Peacemaker which is what I am so let's start with
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type five shall we let's get into it so
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the investigator I don't know what we I don't remember what we've mentioned about them in the past I don't I was
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trying to think I was like working on this outline I don't think I know any fives
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honestly but yeah I don't remember what we talked about either and like the first week when we kind of did the
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overview I I really don't know a whole lot about the fives although I did kind
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of learn a little bit when I was doing this research and I can we can speculate as we have been the last three weeks yes
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yeah but the fives they're kind of described as being insightful curious intense and
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independent and The enam Institute actually States like these are some potential flaws that they might exhibit
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when under distress and theirs are often exhibited as like poor eating and
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sleeping habits due to minimizing needs neglecting hygiene and nutrition lack of
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physical activity and potentially psychotropic drugs for mental stimulation and Escape narcotics for
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anxiety so it seems like a lot of like negligence is like yeah like just kind of
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like avoidant tactics almost and then like utilizing
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potentially external like stimulator yeah for
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feeling something yeah how I kind of interpreted it is like they're in their own little world a lot of times maybe
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like they're just very like in a train of thought thinking about things and this can lead to them like forgetting to
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eat and skipping meals because they just get get so stuck in their head with stuff or maybe they are the ones who on
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the flip side do like a lot of like distracted eating like just like mindlessly eating some chips or whatever
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because they're just like thinking or doing whatever and they're just kind of doing that like Mindless hand to mouth
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kind of thing because they just get so stuck in their thoughts yeah it's almost like a like a
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disassociation tactic with food whether it's like lack of presence of food or
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like very strong presence of food being utilized to potentially suppress some
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feelings yeah but I think I agree it's like constantly in their head which is
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not a bad thing it's just they're always thinking and yeah yeah I was I was
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reading the like the celebrities at The Institute list for this one and it was things like are people like Albert
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Einstein was an example so that makes sense I think it's just like really intellectual smart people who
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are just always thinking very deeply and so food is just not always their first priority basically yeah going to that minimizing
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needs and neglecting self-care yeah exactly interesting that's all I really
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have for this one again I don't I don't know any fives I don't think and I feel
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that is probably just the biggest issue yeah Okay Ross no no this is we were
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saying Ross was a three I think he's a three I was getting a hint of five when I was like doing this research he
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doesn't get very in his head but I don't think I don't think he's a five let's
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move on oh wait did you have Bobby do it yet has he feeling better I have
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not he is feeling better I've not had him do it I think he's a seven I think he's a seven too okay
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we'll get to sevens and I feel he's a wing eight like a strong Wing eight I
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could totally see that I don't think he's a wing six switch let's go into Wing six so anyag 6 is the loyalist this
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person is cautious indecisive they might struggle with self-doubt and suspicion
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and The anyag Institute like Emily mentioned they have like their description of things they might
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struggle with they call it Addictions on The Institute website which we don't love because we don't think food
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addiction is necessarily a thing um but anyway what they say for sixes is quote
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rigidity in diet causes nutritional imbalances quote in the quote I don't
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like vegetables would be something they might say um working excessively caffeine and amphetamine for stamina but
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also alcohol and depressants do to deaden anxiety higher susceptibility to
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alcoholism than many types so I kind of like got like picky
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eater Vibes or like very indecisive eater Vibes like they maybe know what
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Foods they feel comfortable with and maybe are a little bit nervous to expand their palette yeah definitely like
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skeptical and not quick to like jump into something especially with food at
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least yeah I feel like it's just like a very I don't want to say timid but just
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like maybe I'm going with skeptical just like very conscious about their choices
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not going to jump straight into something so when it comes to food they know what they like yeah and which isn't
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always a bad thing like talking about disordered eating I don't know if I'd classify quote picky eating as like
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disordered um of course it can be if it goes into like arfid territory of course
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then it would be definitely yeah disordered um so definitely I guess now that I say that it definitely could
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become that but there's plenty of picky eaters so to speak who aren't just
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eating they just know what they like and so they want to eat those things it's when it becomes a little bit more obsessive
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and starts to inhibit your quality of life yeah start showing up I feel like
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five and six in terms of food are not quite as Extreme as like our anagrams from last week last week was a bit
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intense we like anorexia and like over exercise super intense stuff and today
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it's like oh you don't like vegetables okay yeah yeah much more
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tame not as like polarizing which is probably good from
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their standpoint maybe they're more level-headed people they're I mean you got the sixes they're thinking about
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stuff they're cautious skeptical it's not always a bad thing yeah and then the
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other people are just constantly at thought yeah exactly and pondering
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whatever it is they do yeah I don't really know what Einstein was so busy pondering but I guess it was making him
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a scattered eater electricity he was neglecting sare yeah wasn't I don't
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know you're probably right I have literally no idea I'm gonna say history was one of my worst subjects I don't
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really feel confident in anything regarding history I literally know E equals MC s but I have no idea what that
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means is that the electricity thing no I think that has to do with God we're
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really this is really bad we dieticians I'm pretty sure it has to do with gravity
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yes yes hold on we need to look this up right now because we cannot continue in
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our lives Albert Einstein's theory of
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special relativity that expresses the fact that matter and
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energy uh can be changed into each other what yeah of
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course so m is mass Okay C is the speed of light equals kinetic energy
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e totally yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay now I feel physics as dietitians yeah
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thank God now I feel less guilty for not knowing because I still don't get what that
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means luckily we don't have to deal with that no I I bet I can go the rest of my
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life without ever having to know that equation or like use it in any
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way nope which thank God for that I I know we have our regrets sometimes but at least we don't have to do that yeah
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that is true we avoided that scary time
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yeah well it's been a pretty chill up so so far I feel like it's about to get a little bit more it'll definitely get a
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little Wilder with ours at least I I'm excited for yours especially very excited for yes okay let let talk seven
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though potential Bobby I think this is I'm gonna make him do it tonight because we keep talking about we've been talking
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about it for now like three weeks week three he was sick during week one and he no longer has an excuse so we'll find
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out tonight and I'll let you know I'll let you guys know next week on whatever what is our next episode after
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this oh it might be a guess um the next time it is just us I will let you guys
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know yeah what type he is but type seven is is the Enthusiast they are
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extroverted scattered and distracted which is very much
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Bobby but the enog Institute describes their potential problems being these
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type are most prone to addictions such as like stimulants with caffeine cocaine
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and amphetamines ecstasy psychotropics narcotics and alcohol but tend to avoid other depressants they may wear their
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body out with effort to stay quote unquote up an excessive cosmetic surgery
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might be something they participate in or painkiller usage
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very extreme extreme they definitely these addiction like
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categories in The Institute they definitely go all the way they they don't miss anything they're like we're
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gonna include everything they're like if you are hooked on E ecstasy it's definitely because you're an anyr s
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yep there's no way around it yeah but yeah I I know a seven aside from Bobby
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and the biggest thing is of course the fomo like they're the kind of person who wants to try one of everything they
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might overestimate their hunger leading to them eating past fullness conditional or consistently they're the kind of person
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when we getting ice cream like they'll have the vanilla the chocolate and the strawberry they want to try
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everything um the other that I know I could see her relating to this next
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piece where they easily feel like they're deprived like they always are
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like wanting more like they might feel like they're the kind of person who has
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a sugar addiction quote unquote but they really just really enjoy like tasty
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delicious foods like it's fun for them and they're like all about the fun and the excitement and so the friend that I
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have who's definitely a seven she's always talking about how she's like addicted to Sugar um she like loves
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sweets and I think it's just because she loves like fun foods and like tasting
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and like that that next piece like constant stimulation like that's a really big part of it too like they
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always need to be like doing something with their hands and their mouth and their brains she's always talking yeah I
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feel like it's like they have to be like in it with that like fomo part like either they can't like will not be
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observing they will be involved or participating in some way um especially when it comes to food
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they don't want to miss out yeah on anything is does Bobby do any of these
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things like foodwise I think
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he I think he feels like the fomo with the like wanting to eat everything
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because he like yeah is not a picky eater which is great I appreciate that
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yeah but then he's like oh my gosh there's so many things that I want to
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try all of them and it like gets a little stressful well good thing you guys are in Chicago where there's always
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something new to be eating yes yep we will never get bored here so that is
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good for that but yeah I think it it's the
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constant simulation in the film like really bring it together very well where it's like yeah just go go going needing
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to know everything that's happening being involved which I appreciate their
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enthusiasm oh I could never be a seven I am like I'm kind of jealous of sevens they're always just like so high energy
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and ready to go and do whatever they're up for anything yeah I'm a little envious I love that for them they're
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very extroverted as kind of the main yeah takeaway there I think I'm a wing
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seven I can see is like kind of a spoiler because we've talked about it in our episode
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the the first one where we just talked about our anagrams and I think I'm definitely more like it makes more sense
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that I'm a seven I think you're a seven you like to like go out and do things and explore yeah this past weekend
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actually I always get in my head because I just don't like going outside because it's like feels like an effort but then
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I like hang out with people I'm like oh yes I forgot that like I like this this is like really good for my mental health
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and this really changes my mood I forgot how much I like people it's just the getting here part is what I don't enjoy
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yeah yeah which it's hard to say if that's even like anyag G related maybe that's just like you're
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tired hard it could be that I am unwell yeah yeah yes I think it's
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more that well that's a great segue into number eight which I think of course you
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should definitely describe this one I am excited to talk about this but also tell
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them what you commented on our I was reading the outline today and I was
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reading through it I literally commented this entire section is a personal attack because everything I was
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reading I was like H this is a bit too
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familiar I was typing it out when I was researching and I was like oh man this is going to make
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her either I don't know I feel like you know like a is very self-aware like you know
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all these things thing is I hate it I am very self-aware but I'm also incredibly self-sabotaging which like checks out
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very much with well we're about to go over so type AIDS is a refresher a
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challenger they're known to be like self-reliant protective and assertive they're and the anagram Institute States
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their potential problems might be ignoring right off the bat I mean
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physical needs and problems and I'm like all right let's let's calm down here
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rude um they may avoid medical visits and checkups uh they might indulge in rich
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foods Alcohol Tobacco while pushing themselves too hard which could lead to high stress strokes and heart
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conditions they have control issues they control issues Central
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and potentially through alcoholism and narcotic addictions and I can say at
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least I don't have those you're good there yeah I'm okay at the
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end half of the end isues are prevalent
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no luckily one of the biggest things is I'm so I don't want to say
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cheap but there are some things I'm very like refused to spend money on yeah and
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that is a category of it but the like ignoring physical needs
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and problems and then pushing yourself too hard which will lead to more
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stress yeah I'm like it's fine I don't treat my body well and I'm aware but I
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think it I just think of like you and dairy is like my first thought it's like who cares like
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pun I'm L like I'll deal with it later I'll be fine and this reminded me of
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like way back when when we talked like our disord eating history how like my
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main form of disord eating was binge eating which like and I would do it
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to literally like put my body in a state of pain to suppress my stress and
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thoughts yeah so this tracks I hope some other fellow AES well
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I hope you're not relating to this at all I hope you have a very peaceful life um but if but if you are experiencing
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this I see you and I hear you and we're in this together um the part where it
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says may have strong cravings for foods that leads to overindulgence as their passionate energy meets their intense
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Cravings I was thinking about when you were vegan for a day and then we ate all
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the dessert at the dining Court even a day it was between meals you were vegan for two hours I was
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it like I would be vegan and then we went to Windsor dining hall and they had cinnamon rolls and I was like you know
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what not today we had your fun yeah yeah but the very aware of their own urges
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and desires checks out um you also include fear being rejected and builds up their ego to
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protect themselves so they'll do whatever they want to hide their disord eating habits also very much checks out
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because no one knew in the peak of the disord no one
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knew what was happening but also I'm very good at lying and hiding
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things um because I experienced a lot of Shame so this is just a good reflection
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period nothing I didn't know but it's nice to get called out yeah at least we know you're
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definitely an eight based on this yes definitely an eight do you feel like
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back to like the seven do any of those feel relatable to you since you might be owing seven or probably arwing seven I
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think I definitely experienced the fumble with food I like say I like will
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be someone that will get a little bit of everything and then I will be halfway through my plate and be full but I will
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continue to eat because I'm like one I can't miss out on this to
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probably The Clean Plate Club is still somewhere in the back of my mind despite years of trying to not do that anymore
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yeah but I think that was the biggest thing I don't think I need constant simulation I can as we talked about with
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my lack of inner monologue and um lots of reflection recently I realized I'm very okay just sitting and existing oh
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my gosh if you guys aren't part of our bonus segment we talked about if Emily and I have inner monologues or not and
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you have to listen to that if you want to hear but the next day em Emily texted me like I don't think I have one I've
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been thinking about it a whole bunch I don't think I have an inter monologue yes she been really reflecting on this
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yes a lot of reflection has been happening recently um which has been fun because I
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never thought about things like that so it's good to think about new things I'm also very excited for your answer today
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for our bonus question today is just so silly I'm so excited I I feel like my answer is gonna
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be a little bit depressing but you know when do we not bring in childhood
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trauma yeah oh you guys will have we'll have to listen
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yeah okay any other thoughts okay any other thoughts on any I've done enough
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self-reflection for today my turn yes we'll talk about you now h i i was again
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I felt very similar to the personal attack that you said when I was writing this and I was like attacking myself
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basically so to recap the n is The Peacemaker which is what I am this
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person's very go at the flow complacent simp simplifies and minimizes problems
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you know that everything is fine like the dog in the fire meme that's an anyag
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nine in a nutshell yes the nagram Institute States quote overeating or
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undereating due to lack of self-awareness and repressed anger lack of physical activity depressants and
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psychotropics alcohol marijuana Narco narcotics to deaded loneliness and
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anxiety o I mean it's so intense it's so intense
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thankfully this is like when you're like the shell of a human like with the different levels which they yeah that's
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true that's like isn't that level nine I think so which neither of us have gotten
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there luckily if you do you're a murderer so I was going to say you'll
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know well or maybe you won't maybe you won't no I told you I'd be I would let you know at least if I were to
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kill Bobby which as a nine is my nightmare but I got to do what I got to do as your best
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friend yeah I'll take one for the my and my my wing eight will come out and I
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will be I'll be good there we go yeah um I I don't know I just based on this part
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I don't relate too too much with that description I I sometimes will struggle with undereating mostly just because I
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get distracted and I just like truly do forget sometimes and then I end up overeating later because I get too
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hungry or like Ross and I have very different eating Styles so like I'm more of like a grazer throughout the day and
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he's more of like three solid meals so if we do ever like spend the whole day together doing like house projects or
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out and about or whatever sometimes I will end up getting a little bit over hungry and then overeat later to kind of
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compensate but other than that I don't really relate to that part too to much the physical activity I don't relate to
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a whole lot I enjoy physical activity but these next descriptions I
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definitely can relate to a lot more so nines can be very out of touch with
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what their body like wants and needs their instincts their impulses so that kind of relates to the hunger and
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fullness thing where we can't really like recognize our hunger and fullness cues which again I don't know anymore
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that I struggle with that but I do identify with this next piece which is that sometimes we don't know
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what we want to eat like I am definitely a partner who is like what do you want
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to eat I don't know what do you want to eat I don't know what do you want to eat like I I'm not gonna make the decision
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because what if it's the wrong decision and then that person's not getting what they want to be eating and they're not enjoying themselves like I don't want to
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make that choice um so definitely relate to that piece the next part is about how like
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nines don't really show their anger they don't express it outwardly we tend to like suppress it inwardly so nines might
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use food to like numb themselves instead of like just expressing what they're feeling because we don't want to hurt
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anyone's feelings ever because that would just be the end of the world we
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also this one's very true for me may not really know their own food preferences they may just eat based on what others
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are eating eating like I'll have what she's having kind of thing checks out when we eat together and every single
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bonus question the bonus questions are like
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completely giving me away with all this I as I've gotten older I've started
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to learn more about my own food preferences but I can definitely say
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like until I like moved out on my own with Ross and like lived
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on my own I would just like eat like I I didn't really make any choices there
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like my either parents would feed me of course or like at College the dining
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courts going out to eat I do tend to just like get what others get a lot of
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times although again I've gotten better about that I had like the hardest time
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getting groceries for myself when I first started buying my own food like sophomore through senior year of college
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because I had no idea like what foods I liked or wanted to cook so again that's gotten easier because I have like try
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different things and now I'm starting to like learn what I like but I definitely had no idea at first and so I was like eating food I didn't actually like but
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that was also probably related to disordered eating as well and I had to only eat you know chicken broccoli and
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rice every day for the gains the gains the gains and then the
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last point I have here is because us nines well a lot of times minimize problems like oh it's it's fine um
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people like me May struggle to ask for help for disorder eating recovery because it's fine everything's fine it's
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it's totally normal and the like conflict avoidance oh yeah and like we
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hate the spotlight like I I don't like going to the doctor because I don't talking about myself
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having a podcast is a bit of a trip because it's just talking about myself a lot yeah it's not great so that's
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definitely for sure a thing like why we may not seek out help because then the spotlight would be on us it seems very
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much like minimizing your own needs to make sure everyone else is okay
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and neglecting your own care oldest child things another part that has to play a
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part and and we can't we cannot ignore that fact I it's nature and nurture for
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sure yes yeah well there you have it guys a little bit of the anying
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round this has been interesting this is our first time doing something like this I kind of liked it we we'll have another
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three-part series actually coming up in a couple months should we tell them or just wait we can wait you know what I'm
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talking about yeah I know what you're talking about but we could wait okay we'll surprise you guys more series to
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come it's something not personality test related
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but fun series that we're excited for yeah I'm excited for it but if you guys
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do like this we mentioned last week that we totally could do more personality test stuff just like even talk about our
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own yeah personality tests yeah and deep dive into that what that says
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about that's what we need right is to keep diagnosing each other with our shoes yeah
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yeah oh my gosh that's a fun time it's a fun time Time
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Keeps Us entertained and we said this at during the last episode but I want to say it again if you are one of these
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neogram types and something we said like it's a completely different experience you had disord eating or just like
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personality wise that doesn't invalidate your experience anymore this is just us
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speculating and taking whatever nutrition and disord eating knowledge we
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have and applying it to anagrams yeah just for funsies like
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we've said this whole time I like how you said that does not invalidate anything you're feeling and like we both
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said like we don't maybe fully relate to every single part of what we even talked about with our anagrams it's just some
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pieces might make a little bit of sense now that you know you know what these anagrams might be going through well we
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hope you guys had a great time be sure to check out this bonus question because I'm like a little nervous and
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scared but also I already know my answer it's going to be depressing I don't I
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feel like Hannah is gonna be depressing because that's just who we are ourselves yeah it shows
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yes what we think of ourselves and you have to just see It'll be it'll be great
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it'll be good but thanks for listening we'll catch you guys next week otherwise bye guys
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