Episode 91: The Ozempic Craze


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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah talk about the increasingly popular injectable, Ozempic. You may have heard about Ozempic from the #ozempicchallenge on TikTok or found out it’s the secret to Kim Kardashian and Elon Musk’s weight loss. But did you know it’s a drug originally designed for diabetes management? Tune into this episode to learn what Ozempic is, the risks of taking Ozempic for weight loss purposes, and how diet culture has clawed its way into the injectable world.

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    hello everyone welcome back to another episode of the upbeat dietitians podcast

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    hello guys welcome back to oh my gosh season six this is our Premiere yes

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    welcome back to season six we're so happy you're here we are kicking it off with something spicy so this is an

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    indicator for how season six is gonna be I think a little hot and spicy and Saucy

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    we want to start today with a Content warning we are going to be talking about weight loss a lot today so if that is

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    triggering for you please skip this episode we will try not to talk about too much

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    weight loss this season so if that is triggery from triggering for you can still be one of our beloved listeners

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    but today is definitely all about weight loss and weight loss medication so please

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    um just skip this one if it's not a good fit for you and we also want to give a disclaimer that we are not medical

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    doctors obviously we are the upbeat dietitians not the upbeat doctors

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    I don't like that you have us big doctors honestly I don't like the sound of the upbeat doctors it's just doesn't

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    flow as well I don't think no it's still be tough though we still have Ted buds we would but all that said the decision

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    to take a prescription medication which by the way today's about ozympic I didn't really say that

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    um if you decide to take ozembic or any other medication it's obviously a choice that should not be made based on what

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    Emily and I say we are just here to kind of give some information today about what's been kind of going on in the media with ozempic but it's a choice

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    that you make with the help and support of medical care provider this is not meant to be indicative of like a client

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    provider relationship of course no General

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    education yes we don't usually say that we usually have it like in our show notes but we thought today'd be very

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    important to like verbally say that in case you go to your doctor and say I can't take that

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    because Hannah and Emily said not to don't do that we're just here to kind of

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    give our thoughts our opinions take from it what you see fit

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    exactly so let's talk about a something so

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    if you are maybe not in the deities space or don't follow anyone who talks

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    about it bless your heart living in peace right now it's been a

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    little overwilled with everything coming up but essentially ozempic

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    and like Diet meds have been around for a while just the reason we're talking about this one specifically is because

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    of how much it's picked up in popularity and like discussion on social media like

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    specifically into on Tick Tock the hashtag ozone because it's over

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    662 million views and it's going up that's insane I can't even

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    fathom how much 662 million is like think about like people like in a

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    stadium like that's so many people and a lot of people there's a hashtag called

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    ozempicchallenge also racking up millions of views because you know now it's a challenge to get on this

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    medication to lose as much weight as possible oh I don't like that don't like that

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    another reason why it's so popular right now is public figures like Kim Kardashian and Elon Musk are claimed to

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    be on injectables I think Elon Musk is claimed to be on mcgov which we'll explain what that is too in a little bit

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    but they're all very similar um they are all like us bulgovia actually is for weight loss but anyway

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    we're getting ahead of ourselves um public figures we're also getting on this train making it seem like you

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    should too like celebrities are always doing like the classics we'll have to do we're gonna do a Gwyneth Paltrow episode

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    too but she as of right now I'm recording this is also very hot in the media for doing

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    similar Wellness culture things and it's just the influence they have is not a

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    great thing when they use it for the wrong ways for the wrong things yeah

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    so let's and so we're talking about like how

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    celebrities have lists of influence on it it's also the way the media has been shaping it luckily

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    luckily there's been a lot of like critical thinking like I feel like not

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    confrontation but there's been challenges on social media from like people just like commenting on it so

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    it's not just like absorbing it in and accepting without is but some of these media headlines are

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    absolutely wild so like and a lot of people just read the headlines of articles

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    I I would like will say I've done that sometimes where I'm like I don't want to

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    read this article or the article isn't even free and I'm like well right absolutely know what's happening

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    I'm not paying for this uh but some of the headlines have included that it's

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    claiming it was that big as a new quote-unquote Miracle weight loss drug that really works I know the one claimed

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    it's the end of obesity and then there's another one that was claiming that there

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    is a game changer way a game changer weight loss drug was approved but this was about um not not as empty right right actually

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    a lot of these are kind of a mix of all of them I actually it's a good segue into our next piece

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    um I'm gonna have the honor of kind of explaining what these are I have a little more experience with these

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    medications and the clinical work that I do so I'm kind of gonna kind of gonna break these down we are mostly focusing

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    on ozembic today because that is the one right now that's like so hot in the media but there's a few that like all

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    are used for weight loss and some are approved some aren't so I think it'd be a good next step to kind of go through

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    all the different ones um but first of all ozempic that's the first

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    we're gonna get into ozempic is just the brand name for what's known as semiglutid it's an injectable it's

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    currently used for the treatment of type 2 diabetes and at the time of at the time of this recording ozympic is not

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    FDA approved for weight loss but I'm wondering if it will eventually be but as of right now it is not

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    so I I asked a little question box my Instagram story asking what everyone wanted to know about this I got a lot of

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    questions asking like if it's not for weight loss like how is everyone getting it from their doctors doctors can prescribe medications as off

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    label which basically just means that it's used it's an it's an FDA approved

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    medication but it's being used for something that's not FDA approved to be used for psychosempic for example here

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    is FDA approved to be used for type 2 diabetes but it's not FDA approved to use for weight loss but it's being

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    prescribed off label for weight loss anyway so that is kind of what a loophole yeah

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    a little bit more money and there can be some like pros to this like like in the

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    cancer world for example there can be some meds that are prescribed off label that are used for like a certain cancer

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    type that they use off label for like a different cancer type to treat that so there are some positive uses too and

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    depending who you ask this could be a positive use of ozympic um if you ask us we probably wouldn't

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    say that but if you're asking obesity Medicine Specialists they're all about it

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    yeah so since it's not prescribed or since it's not meant for weight loss

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    it's not FDA approved for weight loss um again it's being prescribed off label

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    but let's go over like how it does actually work for weight loss because it it does lead to that and they actually say on the Olympic website

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    um about like diabetes and all that too but they do say like you can lose like I forget what it is I should have wrote it

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    down like this percent of weight loss is many pounds using ozempic but then they have like a little aspect that says like

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    it's not used weight loss though but they still advertise it for weight loss so it's a little confusing yes

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    um but basically how it works is semoglutide orozmic is an injectable

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    glp-1 receptor receptor Agonist drug that works by slowing down gastric

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    emptying which basically just tells your brain like hey I'm full a lot faster than it would without the medication so

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    this allows patients who take ozembic for weight loss to experience less hunger and feel satisfied with fewer calories you just feel Fuller faster

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    basically what's doing though is medically inducing gastroparesis and I

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    don't have gastroparesis but I have worked with patients who do have it and I'm willing to bet that anyone who has

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    gastroparesis wouldn't like wish that upon others like they're not going to say oh yeah you should definitely do

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    this medically induced gastroparesis it's not a fun Pleasant time I'm sure no

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    no so that's like a strike one for ozempic his it's

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    we'll get to this later in our whole cons list that we have but it's gonna make it really tough if your goal is to

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    improve that relationship with food and work on your hunger and fullness and build a touch with your body if you're

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    having this medication that like is literally doing the opposite of that

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    so we'll get more into that later but strike one strike ones I already looking a little

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    rough the fact it's it's the classic case of like let's taste something that wasn't meant for

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    weight loss and make it about like Keto exactly very similar situation where

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    keto was developed for epileptic patients and then the diet industry was like wait

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    let's let's make this about weight loss that's so true like the overarching idea

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    is like just because it can doesn't mean it should especially when you're messing with

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    medications but that's I feel like that's something we're just gonna continue to go into that's like what's so wild to me is this is like a

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    prescription an injectable like you have to like inject this into your skin yeah

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    yeah a very invasive medication like probably like one of the more invasive types and we'll get to side effects but

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    they're side effects too it doesn't come without risk so that's

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    the main gist of ozympic but like I said there are a lot of others right now that are also

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    I was gonna say hot to trap but that's not the right phrasing that's not it

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    I think I would have believed you that sounds fun I think that has like a sexual meaning so scratch that but

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    anyway um along with ozempic well Govi is also very popular right now

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    um well govia is relatively new where are those Olympics a little bit older but what Govi is actually the same thing

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    as ozembic it's also semi-glutid it's just at a different dose but what Govi

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    the differences here is that wellgovi is approved by the FDA for weight loss so it's being prescribed like right now for

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    weight loss but they're having a ton of supply issues just like they are with ozembic 2 and Manjaro so we'll actually talk about

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    supply issues more in a little bit but all of these right now because they're trendy are having supply issues which is

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    no bueno for those who actually need them for reasons Beyond weight loss

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    so we've got ozempic we've got wogovi which are basically the same thing but just different uses and dosages and then

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    we have Manjaro Manjaro is actually the newest one as far as I know

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    Manjaro is the the what's the word the brand name for

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    terzapatide which is also an injectable medication Manjaro is also used to treat type 2 diabetes it has a different

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    pharmacology than semiglutide does but it is also used to treat type 2 diabetes

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    and it's also not yet FDA approved to be used for weight loss but it's also being prescribed off label and there's a lot

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    of I don't know what the word is a lot of people that's very vague I know but people

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    saying that it will be a weight loss approved drug probably pretty soon

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    so we'll have that and we'll go V and at this point likely it was on big two at some point being FDA approved for weight

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    loss but manjaro's really new it was actually just FDA approved back in May of 2022

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    for type 2 diabetes so it's like it's it's a newbie on the market

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    are you thinking of hot off the press yes I am okay that's exactly what I meant to say

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    highly it's not I was at the streets I'm surprised I was like wait was that what I'm gonna Google hot to try that is so

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    new hot to train less than a year and it

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    yeah it makes I wouldn't be surprised if like some pharmaceutical companies start

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    pushing for the cfda approved especially with like the popularity of these types

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    of drugs right now and they I I need to find the quote I

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    will we'll have a lot in the show notes that maybe I kind of reference but can't speak to very directly today because I I

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    have so much I want to say here today but um I was reading from another um

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    person talking about Olympic and everything and they were saying that uh what's the name of the the brand that

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    pushes all these out where'd it go oh my gosh where'd it go

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    no Nordisk yes that's his company it's right under where you're we're

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    looking oh there it is okay um norvo Nordisk is the pharmaceutical

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    company that produces Olympic and magovi Anzac Center which I'll get to in a second

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    um they have this like agenda to make billions of dollars and treating obesity as a disease and by

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    2025 and I think it's like two point something billion dollars is their goal I wouldn't be surprised if they hit it

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    oh me neither I think it's a very realistical two years yeah with all these different you

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    like control of all these different medications yeah be surprised yeah so yeah this

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    norbo Nordisk they're the company that produces the Olympic and the begoli they also produce accenda which is another

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    weight loss injectable but this one is used or it's meant to be done daily rather than weekly

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    and to kind of stir the pot even more well Govi and saxenda are both approved

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    for kids ages 12 and up it's like a a throwback to our

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    children's obesity guidelines episode which also go listen to that but the fact that like

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    12 year olds getting a daily injection because they're quote unquote obese I

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    saw that they have to meet like the Obesity qualification of like BMI but the weight only has to be 60

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    kilograms which what does that impact 60 kilograms yes that's like 2.2 that's

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    over 120 132 pounds I definitely weighed about that much when I was like 14 years or an easily

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    weight at it like in Middle School yeah yeah

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    that was on this extended label for like how you qualify to get six send it as a kid

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    insane that's that's absurd that we we won't go too much into the

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    kids today because we do have a whole episode on it where we just rant for an hour so that is gonna be linked in the show notes for you guys but do know that

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    what govind's extenda are allowed for kids they're approved for kids Olympic is not though so is that big the Hot

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    Topic today I keep saying hot today what is that I don't know why I think I'm just dreaming of former

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    weather maybe I don't know you're manifesting I'm manifesting yes um but ozempic is actually not approved

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    for the kiddos thank god well unless it was used for diabetes and which it could

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    be helpful but they're not using it for weight loss for kids yeah

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    should we discuss the whole Weight Watchers thing yes I'm always down to talk about Weight

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    Watchers I'll bring them up at any minute I can um I want so I want to ask our listeners

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    real quick actually which one of them was Googling me going crazy remember

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    that okay A little backstory Emily and I occasionally to make this podcast the

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    best it possibly can be we'll look at our analytics and we were looking at our analytics for our website and we saw

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    that like one of our popular searches that gets people very excited yeah was like what like dietitian piano like

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    going crazy or something foreign

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    like it had those two words many in multiple searches so I just want

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    to know which one of you tud buds out there is doing that to me I'm not going crazy I just have a lot of passion

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    I like hey but it's bringing them to our episodes you know what that's true maybe

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    I'll be more crazy and I'll just get us so many listeners yes I have red hair

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    red hair people can be crazy that's a stereotype that I I resonate

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    with oh my God okay anyway sorry we would like to know still please let us know

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    comment DMS yeah Show Yourself who are you who's Google yes

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    oh my gosh but yes I don't even know how we got there but Weight Watchers oh because it brought us

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    to the Weight Watchers have for them oh yeah so also go listen to our Weight Watchers

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    episode you can either find it by looking up the dietitians Weight Watchers episode or okay

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    you can find it other way whichever you prefer oh but let's talk about why Weight

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    Watchers is even being brought up in an episode about an injectable medication

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    so Weight Watchers has bought out sequence

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    sequence is a prescription Telehealth company and it goes for more than like its value

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    is more than a hundred million dollars like I wish I just had 100 million dollars to drop

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    please share nothing for them like that's like oh no they can just like shell that out with like what probably

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    one board meeting making that like decision probably two people it's probably making that disability yes I

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    wonder if Oprah was there I wonder she had a role in this

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    I just I just I was thinking I was like do you think there's gonna be like ozempic codes like use my code oh my God

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    to get 30 off your first Supply your like three dollars off your first copay

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    how do you even are there referral codes for meds I don't know I wouldn't be surprised if with everything going on

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    but this well actually along with Weight Watchers having it you can also get these at medical spas and I could see

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    them being the ones that would be like 100 use my code Hannah 30 for 30 off

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    ozympic I can totally see it let's not manifest

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    that but anyway Weight Watchers I was like where are we

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    we're talking about sometimes you're good you're good nay

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    they're like getting into this prescription company that is going

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    to be potentially like these including these medical spas where they can distribute

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    these injectables these weight loss injectables so remember when Weight Watchers was all like we're not Weight

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    Watchers anymore we're WWE LOL no you're you are still we want to

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    well yeah well the word Wellness now has been also

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    hijacked it's co-operated diet culture but they have this whole Rebrand and

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    they're like no we're not focusing on weight anymore yet here we are they are

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    investing in they're they're not investing in it for Diabetes Type 2 diabetes no but my life

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    on the line they're not doing it was a weight loss like Telehealth company like

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    that's their thing and when you go to sequence's website they are also co-opting like

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    um what's the word like oh my gosh like fat Liberation like language they say like we help you

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    without any weight stigma or any of that we're helping you lose weight without

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    the weight stigma so like they're using all those words they make themselves seem like they're just like this body

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    positive move it's like when like new claims incorporate intuitive eating but

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    yes they just perpetuate like some dysfunctional eating patterns yeah

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    look at all these comparisons we have we've we also have a new episode so yeah and I think that's the the red

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    diet red diet red flags of a diet I was like what is the red sauce oh God I'm

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    not manifesting that either oh God I was like do you only get to eat like apples

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    and they have like the last night shades thing I could see the red dye now gosh

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    you just manifested I'm sorry oh god what have I done you should

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    copyright that I should before I'll make it like an intuitive eating like approach though yeah

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    and then whenever anyone tries to use it just sue them for money yeah 100 million

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    dollars flat don't even say that no tax yeah it's for

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    the good of everyone there's no taxes here you're a non-profit for that

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    but yeah Weight Watchers they should just change their name back to Weight Watchers because they are about weight

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    like no one says WWE we all know we all know that was a fail of a Rebrand

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    yes marketing team did not do well no but it's never been

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    about wellness it's always about money Weight Watchers saw the ozempic and the other medications are booming making

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    billions of dollars and they had to get their grimy little hands on it so that's all it's about yeah classic classic

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    so let's get into we keep poo pooing I know something and

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    these [Laughter]

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    is being ready and eager to engage in an activity but some do say like sexual

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    activity is what you're eager to get into what was that in reference was I don't

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    remember no it definitely wasn't sexual though I we don't talk about that very much around here no oh my gosh that's

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    funny we learned something new yeah I don't even know I've never really heard how to try I don't know where I got that

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    from I've never heard of that book I have known I have no reason to be saying that

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    why is that my vocabulary it was fun I thought you invented a new

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    phrase I was like cool now it's a thing the thing that I have

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    no need to be saying anyway let's keep poo pooing let's keep poo

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    pooing on ozempic and these like other injectable medications so let's just

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    like get right into it the first issue

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    making sure we don't deter again I know let's get back on path guys we're talking about we're talking about how to

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    trot we went a little we deterred a little bit so we kind of alluded to this before but

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    one of the like top issues in my mind and I feel like this is a very real issue is the lack of supplies for those

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    who are a diabetic this um a lot of these medications were

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    primarily primarily like made for type 2 diabetes management and now that there's this over

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    saturation of individuals trying to get their hands on it

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    the supplies for maybe someone who doesn't have that easily accessible like health care or provider to get it from

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    or maybe they had some type of like Financial insecurities

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    they are now pushed down on the totem pole and they can't get this medication

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    to manage their chronic disease because it's getting

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    prescribed off label for weight loss yeah I have heard

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    countless stories from patients about this if they could not get medications

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    even the ones who are using it for weight loss can't get it which I don't want to say anything not nice to

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    those people because it's not their fault that they're even on the medication it's me I've also been getting DMS from people that their

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    doctors have been kind of like pushing it onto them like they're encouraging them to take these for weight loss the classic story of you go to your

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    doctor for a cough but you're overweight according to their standards and so they you know make you do a diet or they push

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    things that goes on big these days lots of those DMS but yeah I've heard from so many patients like this is a

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    true thing all of these injectables are the supply and demand is just like

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    I didn't like econ very much but I do know that I know that was never in the lesson plan

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    oh man look how far good thing we're not in business no I've got Ross like right

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    across the other wall over there okay I'm gonna ask him what he knows

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    about the woosh okay well yeah that's I agree that's

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    probably the biggest issue right now is just those who actually need the medication for diabetes because it can be for some a helpful diabetes

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    medication like a helpful treatment and so if those who have diabetes have been

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    reliant on it it's been very helpful for them that can be a big change to not get it and that can lead to a lot of issues

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    to have your diabetes untreated such as like being at higher risk for heart disease infections even worst case

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    scenario death so it's important for those who have diabetes to be treating it and it's hard to do that when the

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    medications are being used for those who just want to want to lose some pounds

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    they diabetics have it hard enough already with the prices of insulin and this is in the U.S we have to clarify

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    this U.S is a little bit different Health situation than other countries

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    but they already have to deal with like the prices of insulin and now there's

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    something else that like helps them manage their condition and it's

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    also becoming very inaccessible yeah well it's a good say we're into our next point which is the price if your

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    insurance doesn't cover let's say ozempic um for weight loss which may be the case

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    if your insurance isn't like if they're like you don't have diabetes so like you don't get ozempic covered I've been

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    hearing that a lot people are paying out of pocket for these medications and this just keeps

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    I can't think of any I guess I never can any of my like phrases they're always wrong I think it's why we have the

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    listeners we do they just appreciate us saying things wrong um I don't even know what I was trying

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    to say oh there it is not the phrase but my train of thought

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    the the thin ideal is so much more easily

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    attained by those who have the money to lose weight using ozone pick for example even if they don't need to like think

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    Kim Kardashian like I'm not here to say what anyone should do with their body but she's not one who's in dire need of

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    ozempic yet she has the money to pay for it so she got it and she's able to lose weight with it

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    so there's a lot of celebrities like her who are having no issue getting access to Olympic but those who don't have the

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    funds to pay for it are having a lot of trouble getting access to it especially those who have diabetes

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    yeah it's very it's a lot easier when you have a lot of money that's disposable

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    and also the resources they probably have are very different compared to the

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    average person as well yeah I've heard from a patient

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    oh my gosh this is crazy it's about Manjaro that she was able to get on some

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    random like Telehealth like video visit spoke with some random he said he was a

    30:06

    doctor who knows if he was spoke with some random doctor for like literally two minutes and she got my job prescribed for her

    30:15

    like it's insane insane I don't know how it went for her with like insurance and like if she paid for it and all of that

    30:21

    but like we we did just say that it's easier for celebrities it definitely is but if you

    30:28

    even have the money as a say average person so to speak you can get these medications very easily

    30:35

    and that's why they're so trendy right now that's why they're a hashtag ozempic Challenge on social media because anyone

    30:41

    who wants to partake can just get some mozambic and do it if they have the funds to do so yeah

    30:47

    crazy it's crazy it's I don't think we've talked about this in

    30:55

    the yeah but I like I understand the appeal in the sense of

    31:00

    like all these diets you have to like eat certain ways and like I was even like comparing this almost to like

    31:06

    bariatric surgery where like you have something done that like

    31:12

    changes the physiology physiology of your body where you you just get the

    31:17

    shot and you're done you don't have to like eat a certain way you don't have to buy certain foods

    31:23

    and you're done so like it makes sense why it's so popular yeah people with

    31:29

    fears of needles probably not as popular way well for them there's other medications don't worry yes but it's

    31:37

    just insane it's also yeah the whole money money plays a part in

    31:43

    almost I think every single diet culturally thing yeah

    31:50

    but if if and when Olympic does get approved for weight loss it will be easier to get it covered by insurance

    31:57

    yes assuming that Supply doesn't keep being crazy because like will go V is approved for weight loss again same

    32:03

    thing as Olympic just a different dosage and people can't get wagovi like for the

    32:08

    last like nine months I've been seeing patients have a hard time getting it

    32:14

    that's so crazy to me I like I insurance is the beat of my distance we've

    32:19

    definitely talked about this before yeah and there are times where I'm like struggling to get my patients like

    32:26

    medications for like their kidney disease and I'm like sorry I'm just trying to keep them

    32:32

    alive and I can't even like get that yet

    32:39

    that's a whole another can of worms though that I will not go into I just want to say insurance companies

    32:46

    foreign

    32:59

    keep my patients alive I rant about this all the time to like my family and Bobby

    33:04

    I'm like it's insane I know in my world clinically it's one of those

    33:12

    things where patients that we see will have coverage to see the nurse practitioner or a doctor but no coverage

    33:18

    to see a dietitian that's how it rages outrageous heaven forbid we do some preventative care that would just be a

    33:24

    shame yeah and like you have a professional to talk about food right which just leads to the medical

    33:31

    providers doing it instead and we know how that goes

    33:38

    okay let's discuss the side effects of Oz epic because aside from like all the diet cultury stuff like even if you take

    33:46

    it for the right reasons whatever there's a lot of risk that comes with it

    33:51

    side effect wise too so the biggest ones that like almost everyone experiences honestly is just your classic like

    33:57

    nausea vomiting abdominal discomfort things like that especially if you eat

    34:04

    um I don't want to say too much because it's obviously very relative but too much for your own body

    34:09

    um which is kind of the whole point of the ozone pick for weight loss is it helps you to eat less so if you eat more than that your body's gonna kind of yell

    34:16

    at you and back to the whole like gastroparesis similar similarities there it's kind of

    34:23

    like like ask your priest with you ate too fast or too much with gastroparesis it would not feel good so same idea if

    34:29

    you're if your stomach is emptying a lot slower than your body's used to you can't eat the same amounts that you're

    34:35

    that you're previously eating which is how this whole thing leads to weight loss in the first place so that's a big one but even without

    34:42

    that like even if you are eating amounts that are appropriate for your body you still

    34:48

    might experience like the nausea and vomiting the the big scary one that this could

    34:54

    lead to taking exempic is possible thyroid cancer obviously very terrible and that the

    35:03

    risk is obviously not as high as like the nausea and vomiting but I wouldn't want to take the risk

    35:09

    same anything with cancer no no

    35:17

    no along with that another possible one especially for those who are taking it

    35:22

    for weight loss is drops in blood sugar because again this is used for diabetes treatment usually and so the goal is to

    35:28

    help them get their blood sugar down and so if you have normal blood sugars you're taking this medication you might experience too low of blood sugars and

    35:36

    that is known as hypoglycemia and that has a lot of negative consequences as well

    35:41

    yeah another little side effect is

    35:47

    pancreatitis a little little guy it's like a little cold

    35:53

    eukaryotitis inflammation of your pancreas once again

    35:59

    pancreas is kind of the main the video I was just to say the main Hub

    36:05

    main hub for all that diabetic action yeah where party's at yes so if like you

    36:15

    have no history of diabetes and you're taking this for weight loss it could

    36:20

    potentially inflame this like perfectly healthy organ

    36:27

    as well which any type of inflation you don't want anytime there's a tightest with anything you don't want but

    36:33

    not fun so we don't want to inflame our pancreas either it's very important for hormone

    36:40

    regulation making sure those blood sugars are under control okay another

    36:45

    formation inflammation of the tightest we don't want that

    36:51

    um another side effect could be changes in Vision it could also get that good old kidney failure obviously not great

    36:57

    either and gallbladder problems so there's like a lot of different like organ systems here that could be

    37:03

    affected by taking this a lot a lot

    37:10

    a little alarming so like not that these aren't bad I don't want

    37:15

    to in like why can't I think it works when you like

    37:22

    make something less of a big deal than it is

    37:37

    I don't know why but you sing poo poo makes me laugh I'm gonna need you to say poo poo more

    37:44

    often I say it all the time that's so funny not in a professional setting because my mate and like the doctor I've

    37:51

    been going poo poo well like when their lab values are like abnormal this is no good this is poo poo

    37:59

    telling us are saying that more but what was I saying oh oh I feel like

    38:05

    in this is also just something weird about like pharmaceutical commercials where they like start listing off all

    38:11

    the like side effects it's like death like possible stroke if you take this

    38:17

    you will die please call us to get started if you have an emergency call 9-1-1

    38:26

    [Music] um please consult your doctor first please speak to your doctor about

    38:31

    something I'm Victoza are we going to see some of zempic and all these commercial zooms I don't think

    38:37

    I've ever seen I've probably seen at least one injectable like weight lossy

    38:45

    commercial I don't know I don't watch like real TVs I don't really ever watch commercials period so I'm not a good

    38:52

    a good uh I word I'm getting annoyed like why can't

    38:57

    my brain just like do what I wanted to do good example I was thinking good sample

    39:03

    size I don't think that's right forget it forget it okay your side effects are

    39:08

    bad let's move on let's move on we've already kind of mentioned the next one a little bit but basically we don't have a

    39:15

    lot of understanding of what happens long term if we use as a big four weight loss but it's not meant to be for weight

    39:21

    loss um again they like do advertise it a little bit for weight loss on their website but then they say it's not for

    39:27

    weight loss um when it comes to wagovi and Manjaro those are just super new and so we don't

    39:34

    know a lot about those and like with the Gobi specifically because they are approved for weight

    39:39

    loss they have studies like on their website that are used to display like

    39:45

    how good the weight loss could be which honestly it's pretty unremarkable honestly it's not super

    39:51

    great weight loss air quotes there because that's obviously very relative

    39:58

    um but the longest study for the wagovi as of right now is only 68 weeks and we

    40:04

    know from a diet standpoint that most most dieters regain their weight within the one to two year mark so yeah you

    40:11

    might lose some weight on mcgovi but you're once again you're gonna gain it back and my understanding with these medications

    40:18

    for weight loss I don't believe I could be wrong I'm willing to be wrong on this one but I don't believe as of right now

    40:24

    they have like maintenance doses so like eventually you have to get off these medications so of course they're gonna work while

    40:30

    you're on it they're changing your like physiology and your hormones but once you get off of it it's not gonna

    40:38

    it's not gonna be the same sustainable no yeah I've seen so many patients who take

    40:44

    like let's say Manjaro for example and Let's help them get to their weight loss goals but they're getting so like

    40:50

    they're terrified of what happens when they get off of it and I can't do much about it as a dietitian I can't say oh

    40:55

    we'll just keep you on it then obviously I can't say that I'm a dietitian it's out of my scope so I have to like talk

    41:02

    about the ledge all the time and say it's going to be fine you're more than your weight let's talk

    41:07

    about you know how to eat consistently with the Manjaro I've been seeing constantly that patients are like

    41:14

    they're not eating like they're barely eating anything like like constantly

    41:19

    like it's every single day patients will tell me they don't eat until like 6 PM they're like I didn't even feel hungry all day long that I got to 6 p.m and I

    41:26

    was like still not hungry but I figured I should probably eat something so they're like literally eating like maybe 400 calories a day and so of

    41:33

    course they're terrified to get off it because they're getting so dependent on it and they feel it's like a badge of

    41:39

    honor for them and I feel so proud that they don't feel hungry all day and then we

    41:45

    that's driving me crazy because I have to be like well actually hunger is a good thing like if you want to if you

    41:50

    want to feel it so you can kind of trust your body but depending on the patient they usually don't want to hear it

    41:56

    they're just super excited they don't feel hunger because they're probably just so used to not knowing how to respond to hunger so it does feel like

    42:01

    they're in the driver's seat for once yeah and there's like this weird like

    42:07

    I was just words are not okay we need to go back to morning episodes we do I

    42:13

    right now there's none I'm about to say the personification and that's not even

    42:18

    a plane no I promise like when we are way smarter

    42:25

    in the morning it's been we're coming off of like a full day of working so and we have to

    42:33

    record the over like when something is like oh

    42:40

    my God oh my God notification no like when something is put on a

    42:46

    pedestal where it's like oh my assistant is like amazing oh yeah I can't think of it but I know you're talking about

    42:52

    there's a word for it like oh my gosh it's on the tip of my like hyping it up like over height yes

    42:57

    oh my gosh I this episode like half of it has just

    43:03

    been us trying to figure out common words half science half vocab yeah we can say

    43:09

    things like gastropares right this time

    43:16

    you can say pancreatitis and you can say I haven't even would go be I've been

    43:23

    listening to you say it because you say it so like flawlessly all the time I say it every day I'm scared to say that word

    43:29

    I say it um you know I don't even notice how you know anymore pedestal

    43:36

    but like why what was I well I was talking about how these medications are like people are like

    43:42

    bowing down to them like they're just like they love them so much and they're terrified of getting off of

    43:47

    them because they work so well for them whatever working well means for you

    43:53

    romanticization well at least you knew the word

    43:59

    specification wasn't there but at least you knew the word because

    44:07

    why was I talking it's the same I didn't I don't have anything to add it's just a savings that you're saying I think they

    44:13

    understand yes let's I think they understand anyway yeah it's just

    44:19

    I'm like internally dying every day because of all this it's it's insane I could not

    44:26

    like I just feel so bad for the patients because they are literally terrified like I have a patient's cry because

    44:31

    they're terrified to get off of it what sorry I my thought came back sorry oh my

    44:37

    God no but yes it's this dependent the dependence is like scary yeah what I was

    44:43

    thinking of is the romantic's romanticization romantization

    44:49

    sure of not eating yeah was talking about it and her like recent

    44:57

    podcast interview or like not having hunger cues is like

    45:03

    so normalized in diet culture where it's like oh my gosh I forgot to eat or I

    45:08

    didn't eat I didn't eat until like five and like it's not the people's fault

    45:16

    yeah people say this it's the influence around them like the media

    45:22

    I'm gonna I'm people I I will put blame on celebrities because like

    45:28

    they have a huge platform and they know it yes they you should be very conscious about what you put on the internet and

    45:35

    say in general when you have that many eyes on you yeah it's hunger we should

    45:41

    do an episode on Hunger we'll call it justice for Hunger it'll be like

    45:47

    it's okay to feel hungry like we actually kind of recommend it your body

    45:53

    is telling you something yeah and of course you're gonna get those

    45:59

    cues back which is a good thing once you get off this medication but I I want to clarify too like you had said it's not

    46:05

    the patient's fault for feeling so happy about like not feeling hunger like these patients get so excited they're like I'm

    46:11

    finally like in control I've improved my relationship with food I'm like no you're not it's getting way worse

    46:17

    because you're not gonna be able to maintain this like they just feel so excited about not feeling just like

    46:23

    ridiculous amounts of hunger but there's always a reason why before they got on the medication that they had

    46:30

    no control over their hunger cues they were already skipping meals they weren't eating enough protein they were only

    46:36

    eating quote unquote healthy foods not actually making foods that were satisfying for them they weren't grocery

    46:41

    shopping so they weren't eating foods that were satisfying they were just eating maybe fast food which is fine but if that's all you're eating it's not

    46:47

    going to satisfy you like there's so many reasons why your hunger was out of control so to

    46:53

    speak and it's not your body sabotaging you it was your body trying to like give

    46:59

    you signals that you just didn't know how to respond to your body is not your enemy no

    47:06

    Justice for Hunger Justice for Hunger that could be a good t-shirt when we get

    47:12

    back into our merch we'll make that a T-shirt oh my gosh before you write this down

    47:18

    we could do like a little like a little belly a little like scum with like a smiley face in it or like a heart

    47:26

    makes that be our new logo that'd be so cute oh my gosh should we change our podcast name

    47:33

    laughs Justice I think it needs those down too much if we just talk about

    47:39

    Hunger a little too Niche there very Niche oh

    47:44

    my gosh let's we've been like hyping I don't we haven't been hyping up on something we've been talking about all

    47:50

    the things reasons why ozampic has been getting hype but let's talk about kind

    47:56

    of the other side because like there is some

    48:02

    and I don't we're not going to include this podcasts in that category because this is

    48:07

    I wouldn't say this is a hateful episode no no

    48:12

    an awareness an awareness an educational episode

    48:19

    but there are phrases being used about people who are on ozympic or like

    48:25

    sometimes people will be called or like say like oh I the ozempic face or like

    48:30

    the ozone big body and it's people who use ozempic for diabetes are being

    48:38

    judged for taking this medication for their diabetes

    48:44

    and there's no shame in the type of medication you're utilizing

    48:50

    as and that's not to say like we blame people who might be an ozympic for

    48:56

    weight loss right like we should have crippled that earlier like if you're doing that and it's working for you your

    49:02

    doctor on the same page cool yeah it's there's just like

    49:08

    there's not a lot of information about this right and that's actually long term yes

    49:15

    which we hope you stick around for a little bit so the long term is important

    49:21

    yes and we don't want you to be on an injectable for the rest of your life

    49:28

    right and speaking of like body shame and all of that speak but going back's like the

    49:34

    whole celebrity thing too the celebrities and influencers I have access to get this for weight loss are

    49:41

    creating like really impossible body standards because they are losing so much weight and they're just touting how great

    49:48

    ozempic is for that and it just again it all goes back to the whole thin ideal and fat phobia and all that but yeah um

    49:58

    we've said it a few times like the celebrities and the influencers have such big platforms

    50:03

    they got to be careful that they're posting there's an unnamed influencer that Emily and I both follow that is

    50:08

    like on this weight loss Journey right now and I haven't listened to her podcast yet but

    50:14

    like this morning I saw her putting butter in her coffee if that tells you what she's been up to

    50:20

    and like she has like a million plus followers and she's absolutely not any

    50:26

    kind of health related professional but she has like huge following people are

    50:31

    gonna do what she does I was reading her comments today in the post where she was putting butter in her coffee and everyone's like is that what you do

    50:38

    is that how you've lost all those weights you can like visibly see from like her post a year ago she's lost a lot of weight and so all the comments

    50:45

    are like is it the butter and the coffee like why do you do that is that what works if it worked for you I'll try it out like

    50:51

    just because she's this popular influencer with lots of followers who's lost weight yeah

    50:57

    yeah it's the classic case of influencers

    51:05

    having a lot of power which like this is kind of the world we're living in now where

    51:10

    there is they have that's why they your name their names are influencers they have a lot of influence

    51:17

    um but yeah I didn't know that I'm gonna go stalk

    51:22

    that person's page now I don't know if she's on any medications but she does talk about the changes she's been making

    51:28

    she also does skin care a lot too which I don't know much about like the legalities and like the skin care I feel

    51:35

    like is like I feel like the skin skin care is like the wild west yeah I know there are like

    51:42

    dermatologists online but there aren't a lot of them no and I wonder like you

    51:47

    know how us like as dietitians we get all mad about like nutritionists you know doing things incorrectly I wonder

    51:53

    if dermatologists get mad oh I I would not doubt it I'm sure it would make some crazy

    52:00

    I mean like personal trainers get mad about non-trainers posting like their workouts

    52:05

    I'm sure it's the same in every field unfortunately it's just about how popular your field

    52:11

    is exactly um okay I'm gonna I already talked about this

    52:18

    it's all about like the badge of honor thing we've really already gone over this last bullet point too but basically just

    52:25

    talking more about like what will happen once you get off this medication especially again ozempic we don't it's

    52:32

    not approved for weight loss so who knows what's gonna happen there is a lot of studies on that for weight loss specifically

    52:37

    uh manjaro's so new that we can't know for sure well go V is approved for

    52:43

    weight loss but the studies aren't great and I should say this earlier all the studies that they post on their website are always funded by the pharmaceutical

    52:49

    company so they're self-funded of course that's a huge bias and conflict of interest there

    52:56

    so basically simply put we don't have a lot of evidence for any of these long-term knowing how they're going to

    53:03

    work and I wanted to today go into more of the history of weight loss medications in general because this is a

    53:09

    tale as old as time like we don't have time for it today we have to do a whole episode on it but there are so many

    53:15

    stories just like this where there's been this new diet drug on the market

    53:20

    people take it they lose a ton of weight it's like all the hype and then of

    53:26

    course something bad happens where like fenfen for example leads to like

    53:31

    cardiovascular disasters and problems there and so it gets taken off the market

    53:37

    so we went into like the risks earlier with like side effects and all that but just long term

    53:43

    we don't know what's going to happen and you also can't take these long term at least not right now as far as I know

    53:49

    and like we said once you get off of it you're not going to be able to maintain the weight loss most likely

    53:55

    yeah so all in all I feel like what you just said goes very well into like when our

    54:02

    main overarching points is like prescription drugs should not be trending they should not be a challenge

    54:08

    why is a hashtag like that's so weird we shouldn't be like injectable medications

    54:16

    should not be something you just like more like people like just on a whim

    54:23

    I'm gonna start especially when there isn't substantial like long-term evidence

    54:30

    right about how it could affect you like probably in a couple years from now we'll start seeing

    54:36

    some studies on it a little bit more but that's like a couple years

    54:41

    um long-term side effects can spoiler alert they can go a lot longer

    54:48

    than a couple years it could be like 10 20 years you could be affected by this yeah

    54:53

    yeah and these diet pills dyed injectables all

    55:01

    that is just a result of diet culture and fat phobia Hannah made a really good

    55:07

    point and she emphasized it very well that it's a lot around like

    55:12

    trying to obtain the thin ideal and there aren't just these

    55:17

    quote-unquote these are not quote-unquote Miracle drugs that just will fix all your problems they won't

    55:23

    also make you like your body that something else will note um

    55:28

    if you don't like your body before losing weight you're not going to like it after it's a lot of

    55:34

    mental Jujitsu you gotta go around highly recommend working with a therapist whether you choose to go down

    55:41

    this route or not therapy is great and it's another way for pharmaceuticals

    55:49

    to make billions of dollars off of their anti-fat bias

    55:54

    we've got an episode in the works talking about all about talking all about obesity as a disease which is what

    56:00

    this what Emily just said is all about we'll get more into that in that episode because that's at least an hour-long

    56:07

    conversation I have a lot of thoughts on that but it's basically that like because obesity is classified as a

    56:13

    chronic disease these companies can make medications to treat obesity as a

    56:19

    disease and with the Obesity epidemic they're getting a lot of funding and

    56:24

    they're being talked about a lot they're making billions of dollars all just because they don't like fat people

    56:33

    yes yeah

    56:38

    so hang it into tying it into into an intuitive eat let's try that again my gosh tying it into intuitive eating

    56:45

    which of course what we're gonna do here on the upbeat dietitians podcast if you are on an intuitive eating Journey you

    56:52

    likely understand or hopefully you're learning about how intuitive eating is a weight neutral approach and so it makes

    56:59

    sense that taking ozempic or Manjaro or wagovi with the purpose of weight loss might not support this journey so again

    57:07

    we're not here to say like if you should or shouldn't take these meds maybe they are a good fit for you it's for you to decide with your doctor's support

    57:14

    but if it is to intentionally lose weight

    57:19

    it's going to make it really really tough to honor hunger and fullness reject the

    57:24

    diet mentality make peace with your body because it's going to be a focus on weight loss rather than all those other

    57:30

    things instead so it may not be supportive of that intuitive eating Journey if that is a goal that you are

    57:36

    pursuing hi guys Emily here sorry to completely disrupt the flow of this episode Hannah

    57:43

    and I forgot to record our update for season six so starting with this episode

    57:51

    and everything going forward we are going to be providing an opportunity for

    57:57

    like a membership program there will be a Facebook group involved there's going

    58:02

    to be exclusive content you'll have access to for any of our courses and ebooks coming out you'll kind of get

    58:09

    first dibs at those with exclusive discounts so

    58:15

    we'll be ending the episode here and if you would like to hear our bonus

    58:22

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    58:27

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    58:32

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    58:39

    and we'll see you next week

    59:19

    anyhow I was like I was actually like Arthur Clifford what else was there we

    59:27

    were just talking about it at work the other day what was the one oh my gosh they were like doing math in space Oh my

    59:33

    gosh what was that I know you're trying I wait wasn't there like a little bird

    59:39

    is it a green bird oh my gosh the way I love that show oh my gosh they like doing like math and science in

    59:45

    space it was like honor like right after school and it was like a boy and a girl right yeah

    59:53

    that was such a good show such a good show and then like um

    59:59

    take a look Reading Rainbow what was the one there's a lion like a lion in a book

    1:00:05

    like a library with a lion it was like puppet like a giant lion

    1:00:12

    puppet oh my gosh I don't know this someone listening to this is like screaming it into their

    1:00:18

    like radio or their phone or Dragon Tales

    1:00:23

    my favorite probably classic I love dragon tale yeah okay we were actually PBS kids but Disney when we were out and

    1:00:30

    about outside of the house yes yes I thought Cartoon Network was kind of like creepy like some of the shows on there

    1:00:36

    were just like not my vibe um mostly talk

    1:00:42

    this is rag rat rat rats Rugrats Lab

    1:00:48

    Rats that show scared me Rugrats schedule which is cute that's

    1:00:54

    Nickelodeon I think oh is it I think what's on Cartoon Network Cartoon Network was like that oh my gosh I think

    1:01:00

    of like the scary dog in the like the like the middle of nowhere oh my gosh something the Cowardly Dog

    1:01:07

    oh my gosh what was his name it was blank the Cowardly Dog oh my gosh someone's getting so mad at us right now

    1:01:14

    I just know it I'm so sorry Courage the Cowardly Dog

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    courage I don't remember oh my God we're gonna get yelled at

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    I don't even know if I even that was a Cartoon Network show or I only know Nickelodeon and Disney Powerpuff Girls

    1:01:32

    was Cartoon Network I think oh okay um Powerpuff Girls there's what I'm

    1:01:37

    thinking of what was Kim Possible on was that Cartoon Network I don't know I

    1:01:43

    wasn't really like a Kim Possible gorilla I didn't remember I didn't watch a lot

    1:01:48

    of hers but I was like oh I like her she's a spy

    1:01:55

    Emily was offended at a young age I yes

    1:02:01

    um but I definitely more Disney like High School Musical Hannah Montana big

    1:02:07

    time I love Hannah Montana the whole like finale where she added

    1:02:13

    shoes between kids and whatever the other guys the blonde guy in the

    1:02:18

    brunette guy yeah that's all I know I was like what's gonna happen I know I also love

    1:02:25

    Wizards of Waverly Place that was my other show those were the two main Selena drama your team Selena right very

    1:02:31

    team Selena okay good but also team not Justin because Justin's like

    1:02:38

    Justin's a terrible significant he is the problem he's a terrible significant other yeah he but also Haley Bieber is

    1:02:46

    not nice slash Haley Baldwin is not nice yeah anyway Alex waso raised me I I like that

    1:02:55

    one but I wasn't as into it as I was Hannah Montana like that was my show

    1:03:01

    yes that was my show I think Miley Cyrus was set I've like grown up with Miley Cyrus

    1:03:07

    yes she's only like what like 30 I think she's 30. yeah

    1:03:13

    so she was like doing Hannah Montana and we were like the exact same age almost like she was barely older than us doing

    1:03:19

    Hannah Montana which is crazy to think about like imagine if I was cast as Hannah Montana

    1:03:25

    of living a very different life right now no yeah I would not be on this podcast

    1:03:32

    I would not do anything I would live in Milo that's what I don't get like

    1:03:38

    if I was a child actor like her and I was clearly like a millionaire at 30.

    1:03:44

    maybe even close to billionaire status I don't know what she makes

    1:03:49

    I would just like not live as large tone it down a little bit and just like never work again yeah but I do get when

    1:03:57

    people like like if she she like enjoys if she actually enjoys me I don't I don't know if she enjoys making music I

    1:04:02

    assume so because she keeps making music like that would be fun to just kind of do whatever you want yeah that's true if

    1:04:09

    you like to create if you're an artist yeah but also like I would probably just read and go hiking I don't want to work

    1:04:17

    maybe I'd work in a library I don't know what I would do because I have no Hobbies as we've discussed a few

    1:04:23

    times on here that's my the life that's a dream that's

    1:04:30

    a dream well to have Miley on to tell us about it why are you still making music Miley

    1:04:36

    Miley we'd like to know I don't know how we got here but it's good to know you're both

    1:04:44

    yes that that was actually the real answer it was a trick question trick questions us folks without cable yep PBS

    1:04:52

    is it I do want to say one show I watched that I probably like this is not

    1:04:58

    embarrassing to me because I don't really feel embarrassment as much anymore in my old age of 25.

    1:05:03

    is there was this like I think it was like Archie the

    1:05:11

    something there was some type of animal and I don't I think he was an aardvark

    1:05:16

    but he solved Mysteries and I like watched this through PBS on PBS

    1:05:24

    she likes I would know about this because I was doing the same thing we were just living the same life in different cities I know but like I was

    1:05:30

    probably watching PBS I was a little bit too old to be watching I have younger siblings I was definitely watching it

    1:05:36

    too this is going to really aardvark

    1:05:41

    um me Archie it was like a fish I brought I forgot Arthur's no the main

    1:05:47

    character was like it starts with it's some animal that starts with an A because his name was like starts with an

    1:05:52

    A was it Archie why do I think it's Archie but he would like solve Mysteries

    1:05:57

    and I I mean Arthur Arthur's an aardvark I I just found that out

    1:06:05

    Arthur no he wasn't oversolving Mysteries

    1:06:13

    dang Arthur had 25 seasons whoever voiced Arthur

    1:06:19

    oh my God they must have like go off just like become them at that point like you are your character

    1:06:26

    you probably talked like Arthur in his real life all right looking up artwork does not

    1:06:31

    help I'm wondering if you dreamed this at this point no no my friend my other I watched it

    1:06:38

    with her I'm gonna ask her after this episode I'm gonna ask her and I will let

    1:06:44

    you guys know ask me next episode whenever we have our next one-on-one

    1:06:50

    like our like a meeting okay all right meeting one-on-ones

    1:06:57

    oh my gosh what is Zoboomafoo what

    1:07:03

    some um [Music]

    1:07:09

    wait oh no no I know I know you're talking about I know you're talking about okay

    1:07:14

    oh my gosh it's just like brought out a memory of mine that I didn't even know I

    1:07:19

    have oh my gosh Caillou that little

    1:07:28

    oh my gosh Magic School Bus I love Magic School Bus my parents say I was a big Barney fan until I was a

    1:07:34

    little older so I don't remember my Barney phase but I guess that's big Barney Barney phase which again team Selena third the third

    1:07:43

    search engine result is why was the boom of food canceled

    1:07:48

    oh is this like the show or like it was like canceled for like oh was it canceled like actually oh my gosh the

    1:07:55

    Lemur died of kidney failure oh

    1:08:02

    oh that's sad Sid the Science Kid oh my God Cyber Chase that was the science

    1:08:08

    such a good show such a good show honestly don't really make me bad

    1:08:14

    I don't know this cartoon I know I really want to know too oh my gosh did you watch Curious George

    1:08:19

    not really yeah I had a Curious George face

    1:08:25

    classic guy though The Berenstein Bears

    1:08:33

    oh my gosh word girl oh my gosh Word Girl

    1:08:39

    I looked up cartoon where Aardvark solves Mysteries

    1:08:45

    did it work it was sick no this six

    1:08:51

    search option I'm so confused it's on Yahoo which I've never seen Yahoo crop

    1:08:56

    up on like a main page anymore and it says I am a gay rat in love and I am

    1:09:03

    abandoned Alabama what

    1:09:12

    it's about Arthur wait does Arthur have some like lgbtq

    1:09:18

    representation wait Arthur's gay no no no there's apparently Aardvark

    1:09:23

    said our gay but the episode is banned in Alabama of

    1:09:29

    course it is it's probably bands in Indiana too

    1:09:35

    what is this title though okay I'm gonna google that in love oh it's not an artwork sorry it's a rat I'm a gay rat

    1:09:42

    and loves and I am banned in Alabama oh oh it's Mr Ratburn yes

    1:09:51

    I don't know if it was confirmed but there was like okay um oh yeah he came out as gay in the is it

    1:09:59

    22nd season wait he did I love that love that for him go Mr wrapper

    1:10:06

    don't go to Alabama Alabama I'm scared of Alabama let's see I don't

    1:10:12

    think I would I don't know if I really have any reason to go there no they don't have really

    1:10:18

    anything good all I know about them is football oh my

    1:10:23

    gosh the whole article who else is queer on Arthur I'm so into this they say that Francine

    1:10:30

    is I could see that oh she was an icon

    1:10:36

    rubella prunella's older sister okay the tibble twins that's what I was

    1:10:43

    gonna say before I said Mr Ratburn Sally the babysitter

    1:10:50

    but these I don't think are confirmed I think Mr Ratburn was like actually like he came out the rest of these are just

    1:10:56

    assumptions which is not great

    1:11:02

    yeah these are all just assumptions okay I love that for Mr rapper Mr rapper

    1:11:08

    deserves the world yes oh I don't know who he's he's marrying

    1:11:14

    someone yeah I must have stopped watching by that age

    1:11:22

    oh yeah there's a gay wedding wow oh my gosh this is really took a turn

    1:11:30

    to gay artworks

    1:11:37

    [Applause] oh it's so great

    1:11:42

    um what about Maya and Miguel did you watch that one no but I know of it it's Maya it's Maya and Miguel Miguel

    1:11:51

    that entered I'm saying right now that began my Spanglish era

    1:11:57

    Martha Speaks oh I never watched Martha Speaks but I can sing the theme song I

    1:12:05

    like describes me my friend memorized it for some reason I don't know why

    1:12:11

    what a good theme song though also yeah

    1:12:16

    okay well apparently I have no I I don't even know if this kid's in aardvark so even PBS I'm

    1:12:24

    second guessing everything I know about that I'm glad that you brought this up though

    1:12:29

    because I learned that Mr Ratburn is married to a man lgbtq Ally I wonder

    1:12:37

    when that season came out because were they ahead of their time Season 22

    1:12:46

    2019 okay still airing and going no they stopped

    1:12:51

    in at season 25 which I'm guessing was like okay final episode was February 21st 2022

    1:12:58

    that's crazy who was on that show those people

    1:13:06

    oh my God yeah when was the first episode 1996.

    1:13:13

    oh my God before we were even born oh my gosh

    1:13:20

    dang well you could watch it on Amazon Prime

    1:13:25

    oh I know what I'm doing this weekend watching a gay wedding

    1:13:34

    okay now I don't even know if this was PBS

    1:13:40

    all right well I'm determined to find this out now wow I will not rest maybe let our

    1:13:47

    listeners we should probably we probably talked about this for 30 minutes I have not even like they're playing like why

    1:13:53

    am I still here we could do some editing but if we don't thank you for still being here yeah and we appreciate you

    1:14:01

    savoring our ridiculous bonus questions that should just be we should just like do a

    1:14:07

    spin-off podcast we should ditch the bonus questions in the educational piece and just do a bonus question yes podcast

    1:14:14

    we could literally make an episode about our what type of kid you are yeah that

    1:14:21

    literally today's question could have been the episode name yeah of it yeah

    1:14:27

    what kid are you what does your childhood TV show say about you

    1:14:34

    okay next business venture oh you know how like on Spotify you can

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    do well take this out how you can do like like the bonus like they pay for membership and we like post extra

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    podcasts wait oh my gosh that's such a good idea let's seriously let's do it like that's

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    for season six like no longer do like we'll say at the end if you want to hear

    1:14:59

    the bonus question subscribe we'll like get actual steps to do it and like the bonus question can just be

    1:15:05

    like an extra episode wait that's so perfect

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    foreign

    1:15:21

    because then they get more behind the scenes yeah okay okay let's do that I say for this

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    one um we'll like cut it and separate them but like we can think of a way to like

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    end this one and say if you want to hear our bonus question from today we're actually restructuring will you do that

    1:15:39

    today okay well let me figure out like how like what we want to say to them then why is food barking do you hear him

    1:15:47

    yes someone's psycho okay so we have to remember to we can

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    talk about this after what the actual Fork oh yeah bio we have that now

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    here we go subscriptions should we end it and then do the

    1:16:18

    little tidbit yeah let's end like the bonus question piece okay

    1:16:24

    which we have to do an ending that oh no I see we're doing we'll say like bye and see you next time

    1:16:30

    okay let's wrap up our bonus question I think we've drawn on long enough thank

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    you guys for listening and we will see you in the next bonus sequence subscription

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