Episode 84: Is Dairy Bad for Humans?
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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah are talking all about one of wellness culture’s worst enemy - dairy (GASP). Wellness and diet culture claim that dairy causes inflammation, breast cancer, and that dietitians are paid big money by Big Dairy to promote this food group. But is any of this true? And what about lactose intolerance? The girls break this all down in more in this episode.
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I'm Emily and I'm Hannah we are best friends and dietitians we have a goal of challenging nutrition misinformation and
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fitness Trends with an evidence-based approach each episode we will dish up our thoughts about the latest facts on a
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popular health related topic where the upbeat dietitians
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[Music] thank you
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hello everyone welcome back to another episode of the upbeat dietitians podcast
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hello guys welcome back today we're talking about Dairy very very Niche
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topic um we're gonna talk about Dairy because it is often very demonized by diet
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culture and wellness culture so we're gonna debunk some of those myths today we're going to first go over what Dairy
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is we'll do that quickly because I'm sure you for the most part understand what it is we're gonna go over the
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nutrition benefits of dairy um we're gonna break down some of the diet culture claims and if they if they
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are true or if they aren't true and we will also talk about some of the nutritional differences between Dairy
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and milk Alternatives if you do choose to have like nut milks for example and then if there is any other reason why
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you don't consume Dairy like lactose intolerance as Emily will be able to speak to personally
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um we can explain how an intuitive eating approach can go along with intolerances allergies
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especially in terms of dairy as well yeah I'm sorry for this one I feel like dairy's been
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one of the Public Enemies for a while now and has a bad rep
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out there so we're here to chat about it and all the things you need to know so
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let's first discuss what exactly falls in the dairy food group so first off
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that we always think of his milk our classic cow's milk whether you're like a
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two percent skim milk fan one percent whole milk whatever that may be
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cream half and half sour creams all the creams those also fall under Dairy
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yogurts will fall under Dairy as well and this is not like your almond milk
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yogurt so your coconut milk yogurts your cow's milk based yogurts it probably
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won't say cow's milk but it's just advertises yogurt cheese including
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cottage cheese and hard cheeses soft cheeses Breeze manchangos Greers
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Cheddars Swiss you're naming all like the fancy cheeses why would you first go to Brienne manchego
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I
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I I don't know if I talked about this at all anywhere publicly but since living
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on my I feel like I've talked to this or maybe we just talked about it like off off the mic off record off record
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um and I have been buying more cheese with like
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my own money and my favorites being gruyere and menchingo that's why I brought those up I guess it makes sense
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it's just I don't know how bougie our audience is you have to let us know guys that I threw in some chatter and swiss
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pepper jack uh American cheese I mean you're
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speaking my language I love me some fancy cheese I like to go did I show you this when you came to visit that Kroger
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has like their little like fancy cheese area I think so they have like I love cheese
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areas so they're so fun me too they're so fun but yeah I wanted to give some examples
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of a heart and soft so inclusive we're inclusive here what's our what's our
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tagline now something in diversity Good Vibes Good Vibes and diversity even when
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it comes to cheese exactly yeah no bad cheeses even blue cheese oh added cheese
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because blue cheese gets a lot of hate and not because it's a dare because of its smell
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it's very stinky but it's delicious other Dairy options or dairy examples
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are ice cream and butter I feel like sometimes butter gets left out I almost
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forgot to add to the list but I was like oh yeah butter exists and that's wonderful yeah yeah
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well we'll kind of explain when we get to the lactose intolerant part that these all have various degrees of
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lactose in them so you may be able to tolerate certain ones but I'll save that I thought it'd be fun to start first of
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all with some Dairy fast facts what are your thoughts I love this new like outline we have
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there's something we have a slowkin we have something called fast facts now
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maybe we'll make this a consistent segment we can get like a sting for it so it like before I start it goes Fest
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facts and then I like just ran all off anyway
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we don't have time for that but as as we become famous and we have a podcast editor
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that's not just the two of us you can look for the stings and taglines and slogans get ready guys okay so our first
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Fastback today is that you may already know this one but Dairy is a great source of bioavailable calcium and
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vitamin D that's usually the big or the big two nutrients that are kind of
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emphasized and pushed when it comes to Pro Dairy enthusiasts like myself
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um you know you hear that like milk makes your bones strong and that would be why calcium and vitamin D
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yeah especially when you're growing up I'm sure like that's a very important
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time for the growth phase of your life and people are pushing milk like no other it's true
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but there was there is evidence behind why yeah because they want you to have
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strong bones were you a family that had milk with like your dinners I we always had milk on us I was a
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person that would drink like full 16 18 ounces of milk regularly yeah which is
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so surprising why I suddenly stopped tolerating it but I I'm a huge milk fan
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I feel like this is no this isn't our bonus question but
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yeah we were big milk drinkers were you guys I feel like you yes we lived in a
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house where it was like milk or water those were your two drinks of choice I think we discussed this we were a skim
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milk family and you guys were too right we were also the skin mellow family yeah yeah yeah and now when I buy milk I
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usually do get skim I sometimes will get two percent but I'm just like I feel like whatever your raise is what you
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drink yeah Bobby's family I think was like a two percent one percent so he
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buys that and sometimes I'll like try to drink it if he has cereal and I'm like oh my gosh yeah what is it's crazy how
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different it is yeah especially when that was like all you knew exactly growing up exactly well our
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other Fastback has to do with the nutrition benefits as well as a nutrition podcast
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um and you may not know this but dairy foods are also especially like milk and cheese and cottage cheese are very great
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sources of high quality protein that contain essential amino acids that our body cannot make on their own
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that's that so we've got calcium and vitamin D we've
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got protein we've got as I'll explain later or one of us will explain later we've got even more vitamins and minerals in there
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electrolytes it's a good thing it's a good thing we're kind of spoiling it but
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Pro Dairy Pro Dairy the last fast fact which I think is
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going to be one of the most shocking parts of this episode is there are
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linked health benefits including reduced inflammation improved digestive health
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and healthy immune systems and I'm sure you've heard Darius
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anti-inflammatory that's our first diet culture claim that we're gonna get into that's what the third person I say
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there's Recent research a lot of it there's a lot of recent researchers
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actually showing it helps reduce inflammation so it's just
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something being spread like wildfire in the diet misinformation World
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unfortunately yeah the gnome I guess that's a spoiler
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it's a good segue so our we'll we'll next go into the different diet culture
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claims and yeah the first one is inflammation um diets like Whole30 are really big on
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this and they perpetuate this idea that Dairy and gluten too I believe right it's Whole 30 gluten-free of course it
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is I figured you would know with your history um
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yeah diets like that as well it's of course like influencers and
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those like holistic doctors and chiropractors and such thing you think holistic nutritionists yeah
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yeah they're always pushing that idea the ones who probably don't even know how to read or research article are the
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ones that say these things so what we kind of already spoiled it even though there are tons of claims
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because we are evidence-based around here we're gonna see what the evidence says and it says that Dairy can actually
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be very anti-inflammatory
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this next one's one of my favorite ones yeah because it's just it's just so laughable so something else diet culture
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loves to perpetuate with dairy is that dietitians are paid by big Dairy
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but no one knows what that means who the hell is Big Dairy who's running this yeah we're not getting checks from like
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Fred from Big Dairy every week or anything if we were paid sponsored or whatever by baked Dairy
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Hannah and I would only be working one job
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I did much less stressed out if they Dairy was involved in my life no we would be getting paid at least double
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we'd also be talking a lot more about Dairy than we do
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I don't know how we don't bring it up often no but like people on the internet make it seem like dietitians are always
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talking about Dairy and gluten and whole grains where like once or twice
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I feel like it's because of what the food pyramid and my plate has on it
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which aren't even developed by us it's developed by the government we
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we don't really have a say in that I'm sure there's some dietitians on whatever board
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decides it but like oh I hope so if if there wasn't at least one I uh I would
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be surprised I kind of look that up actually I'm curious I I bet there's like a professor
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yeah like an economist or something size professor
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probably an economy I feel like that's where it gets pushed
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around is people just think that's all we do is like the plate diagram and
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follow the food pyramid here's our handout it's a resource we could talk about
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if it makes sense for that particular client or patient but we're not just like giving them a handout on my plate
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and saying hey good luck just make sure you eat plenty of dairy like yeah
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we go we're only allowed to drink Dairy actually that's it's the only beverage option
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yeah and if your plate is not half fruits and veggies you're done for New York don't even talk
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to us yeah I'm gonna slap you on the wrist what are we gonna do it's so dumb
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it's sort of like yeah my Plate's a thing it has Dairy on it we might
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talk about Dairy for those who it makes sense to talk about it for oh and his butthole is like right on the camera
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if you're watching this back I am so sorry he tends to do that
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um I forget what I was saying it's probably the thing about my plate and how angry I am it's a thing it exists
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but if you're in my opinion a good dietitian you probably aren't just
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talking about my plate you're gonna go a little bit beyond that yes and no one's paying us to use my
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plate also no no like no one's or the food games like no
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one's threatening us like on the other side like that's what I learned yeah like
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when becoming a dietitian is like you get to kind of pick and choose what information you use for each person you
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work with like we're not told exactly what we have to follow and what we have to do it's dependent on the person
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yeah that individualized care you know
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I know you know can't say everyone knows you're a carnivore diet
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anyway um yeah my my Dairy big Dairy is not
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paying us we we talk about Dairy like I said if it makes sense for the person but we teach
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our clients how to make choices that make sense for them within their budget within their taste preference what makes
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them feel good if I had a patient who was lactose intolerant do you think I would be making them drink Dairy at
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every meal like my play suggests absolutely not that would be stupid and
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that would make me a terrible dietitian so it's a nutritious Choice it can be a
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very part of a part of a very healthy diet but we're not being paid to promote it this
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podcast is not sponsored by big Dairy no and probably another reason I don't
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know if we I'll bring this up later actually I'll bring this up later I'll hold off ooh
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Intrigue for you guys to stay tuned I'm gonna do that on purpose um
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I'm actually just foreshadow we're we're trying new tactics like this episode we have things
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like fast facts we have our slogan foreshadowing things to come like
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commercials for our later in the labs oh the last diet culture and dairy myth
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out there who's that drinking Dairy will cause breast cancer
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and this just makes me so upset because to say one food
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causes cancer it's so bad is absurd it's not that simple can't
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there's a reason we haven't cured cancer if it was as simple as
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dairy I think we would have figured that out by now and like breast cancer
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they're zero cases record numbers people stop drinking Dairy no more breast cancer no like
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people who don't drink Dairy get breast cancer people who don't who do drink
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Dairy develop breast cancer it's it's not as simple as one food
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and I'm sure it's like oh the hormones and all the additives
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and whatnot breast cancer is not has been around along with dairy and
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actually like we've developed ways to make dairy safer to consume
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so that people don't get like I'm about to say like salmonella you don't get
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salmon E coli what comes what can come from like raw milk
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I food safety lack of probably like a bacterial thing because
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but no it's not that simple like you can't just say you can't just say
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things cause cancer when it comes to food that's it's mind-blowing
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if one thing were to cause cancer it would not be salt like
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we would not be selling it on the streets or there would be a lot more Public Health campaigns around it
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like cigarettes there was a lot of campaigns around like
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lung cancer prevention and that but and that's necessarily ban cigarettes
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because clearly they have not but that's not a food one
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also like there's a very clear distinction um and if you want to look up research
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articles about it you're welcome to but that's when it gets like
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I don't know I get I I'm all for people
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um to say doing their own research but like you have to know what you're reading to
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be able to do your own research as well that's why like people who will have background information or
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background knowledge and experience reading research articles can do that and I feel like someone doesn't like
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what one person has to say about it like ask for a second opinion on an interpretation and it can't be a news
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article because news articles are not scientific articles I've seen that so many times where people reference news
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articles I'm like this is just some reporter who might be citing an article right and even when
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they cite it they oftentimes they misinterpret the results on purpose to sell whatever story
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they're approaching right or it's like a super weak study that was done over like
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four weeks and like it was observational observational yeah on rats right
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crazy stuff right crazy world but yeah no we'll not giving breast cancer
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nope in fact it kind of like the information thing it might even be beneficial in a lot of different ways
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and like that's the thing is you will not see Emily or I ever say
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like drinking milk will cure breast cancer drinking milk will reduce inflammation we say it might help with
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that or it could do this it might do that people who say like a equals B when
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it comes to science like this are just trying to get you to buy something most likely or follow you or
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follow them or whatever yeah such drastic claims we we typically don't have things in that
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at such absolutes where we can say like milk causes cancer that's just not how
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food in the human body works it's so much more than just like this food causes this effect because we have
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genetics we have what other food choices are involved exercise habits I could
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play a role and body fat percentage all that stuff would also play a role in the cancer
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topic specifically and so that's again why it's just so wrong to say that this food causes
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cancer let's talk
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about some other health benefits in general an expansion on our fast facts
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we already mentioned that it has a lot of really great vitamins and minerals
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like the calcium vitamin D it also has those amino acids additionally it also
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has vitamin A which people always think of I think like a little bit more associated with Eye Health
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so that's great as well Dairy is also very versatile and convenient it can be
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manipulated into very different things and Incorporated in very different ways so
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it's really easy to use so from like
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a food accessibility standpoint along with just like
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versatility of food items it's really great for just being able to be used for a lot of different things which is
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beneficial that it's not just serves one purpose this was the thing I was going to bring
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up before was It's relatively affordable so that's why I feel like
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there's some elitism when people are like oh I don't drink milk or anything or like I can't believe you feed your
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kids milk like um a lot of dairy products are relative
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we're not oh I want to say a lot we're gonna say milk specifically we're gonna stick with that milk is pretty cheap and a really great
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source of protein calcium vitamin D vitamin A those other some other amino
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acids that your body can't make and it's cheap that's one of the biggest
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emphasis like there's a reason a lot of school lunch Programs Incorporated or
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like other food assistance programs that milk is typically included on there because it is Affordable and is very
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nutrient dense so when people get a little bit either a
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high horse about it it's doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth because I'm like
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do you do we want to talk about like the average salary like the average wage
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people make do we really want to bring up that like affordable housing
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stuff like that that plays a part in health that people don't think about so
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like yeah we're gonna they're gonna use maybe like someone who maybe might not
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be as well off as someone is going to use or purchase foods that are affordable to
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them and are it's a very added benefit that's nutrient dense it just it rubs me the
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wrong way when people it's not just dairy in general like Foods in general and people get on
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their high horse about avoiding Foods because they would never eat that yeah and the Alternatives the Alternatives
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they always give out are like two three four times more expensive than
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the regular old milk or crackers or I mean little you name it
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coffee creamer that's a big one I always see literally everything regular coffee mate because instead you should be
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getting this seven dollar coffee creamer to use for your coffee that is made of mushrooms instead of regular coffee
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because that's also bad for you apparently and suddenly your grocery bill has tripled because of health reasons yes
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and then it makes people feel guilty for choosing regular milk ah it's just yeah so frustrating
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yeah and I think I'm trying to remember the quote I don't know remember what the quote is and I will
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maybe I'll go look it up and bring it back on the podcast one day but if I remember it but that quote about like
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Health uh healthism evolves over time as the like upper
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class tries to distinguish itself from the Lower Class by like
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demonizing affordable light I don't think it was affordable items but it was maybe it was like more accessible items
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and oftentimes the case is very much that in a lot of these situations yeah
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the last health benefit is it's great for active people so you get the protein
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if we haven't hammered that in at this point you get protein from dairy uh we
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also get some carbs which is great depending on the dairy source I'm thinking is butter carb
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no talking more like milky like chocolate milk specifically is used a
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lot in athletics like Emily and I used to work at Purdue's fueling stations we
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pushed that chocolate milk real hard for the athletes we were working for big Dairy yeah
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so it was just Purdue as a whole their whole yep uh Sports Nutrition department was just being funded by big Dairy
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anything Gatorades were to blame than I was gonna say like it wasn't that a controversial thing though is Gatorade
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only would support our Athletics and not like our entire School
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I forgot about this I know this was like controversial doesn't it or something
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yeah or out are these trade secrets are we yeah
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right or do we do we like sign something that we don't know about yeah since we can't talk about Gatorade
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yeah anywho any whom yeah it's great it's got
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protein carbs of its milk liquid if it's milk obviously electrolytes can be
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really great for a nice little post-workout drank let's speaking of that go into
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milk Alternatives so maybe I have this backwards maybe we
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should do lactose intolerance first and then go into like the different Alternatives let's do that let's talk
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about like we can do that what to do if you don't tolerate dairy or you just don't like it it's okay if you don't
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like it or if you're choosing not to drink it because of ethical reasons as well that's also totally appropriate because again only you can choose what's
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on your plate or in your glass yeah um and that's a big part of intuitive eating that's often forgotten
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about I think is that yes all foods can fit but you it shouldn't involve eating
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because it'll make you feel very good and like if Emily were just like chugging milk because she can it's
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intuitive it's all foods fit it's food Freedom whatever that actually isn't very appropriate
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intuitive eating I would say so all foods fit but they don't have to all fit in your diet
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so if eating dairy whatever you find specifically makes you feel not so great
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it makes you feel not great it's okay to just not eat it when it comes to like the calcium the vitamin D the protein
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all of that not drinking Dairy does not mean you're not going to get those nutrients elsewhere there's a lot of other Foods you could consume that will
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also give you those and if needed supplementation could always be helpful as well but again you guys know our
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thoughts on that supplements are kind of a last resort um when it comes to lactose intolerance
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specifically which is just simply when you don't uh your body relax the enzyme lactase
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which is used to break down lactose typically that can be a spectrum so the
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degree to which people who have lactose intolerance can totally vary
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um Emily I get to let you speak to this more than me because I don't have this thankfully knock on wood
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what what like what's like your spectrum like what foods do you tolerate better than
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others so I feel like I there's two very common lactose
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intolerance kind of spectrums I hear more about but that's not to say there's only two it's just the two I most hear
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about I'm on the side more so than rates like anything but like heavy milk
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products like the liquid milk so like I'm okay with hard cheeses like my Grier
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and munchingo well um but something like ice cream
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is going to cause me a lot of abdominal discomfort
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but on the other side there can it can get as Extreme as and I actually I think
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we I told you I think I told you this because there's no way I didn't tell you this freshman year I tried to do that like lactose intolerance study where it
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was this whole group of people who we just we all knew we had issues with milk and drink milk together
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and like within five minutes multiple people had to like go to the bathroom
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so there's that extreme as well um luckily I'm not on that side
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otherwise that way you because I I have a couple friends also who like I know like they actively avoid it at all costs
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because it's not an allergy but it's like severe enough that it causes
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um some discomfort in your quality of life whereas there I know there are also some people like me a little bit who
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might tolerate so many things here and there but maybe not others and like it gets a
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little bit tricky I feel like cheeses tend to be the lowest lactose content yeah when it comes to like yogurts
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that's where I've seen it all over the place like yeah yogurt's tricks some people tolerate it
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yeah and I don't I don't think I tolerate it sometimes I think I do
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but there was that one I think it was last year I told you about how I was like on a Greek yogurt kick and I did
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not feel good yeah but I was like this is so good yeah but yeah there are some lactose
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free but like still dairy alternative so like I talk about Fair life a lot
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um their products are all lactose free but still made of milk they have a yogurt actually that you should try it's
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really really good um it's lactose free which is just Grand they're really the only lactose free
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dairy yogurt that I've tried but there are tons of plant ones like there's coconut milk yogurt almond milk yogurt
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haven't tried a lot of those because thankfully I don't have to and I just know what I like
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um anyway good that's good yeah we're something in the dairy-free Community got down yeah I'll give them that
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um cheeses I know that's very controversial cheese are just are not so good yeah
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cheese is like so it's like a science and it's just like really hard to make
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cheese they haven't gotten it yet yeah yeah
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um when it comes to like actual straight up milk there's also a lot of lactose free options there like Fair life has
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theirs Kroger has their carb Master Brands lactose free and there's Lactaid
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milk all kinds of Brands will have a galactose free option so if it's not a
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milk issue it's the lactose is the issue you likely can still find certain products where you can still enjoy the
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dairy you just not have the lactose and bubble guts yes
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and from an ice cream sampling because ice cream is also very important yeah ice cream there is also a lot of options
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there almond milk both you know ice creams coconut milk is one of the most common
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yeah dairy alternative ice creams I've seen backing is actually a really cool
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one where they remove that like they remove lactose so it's like lactose free
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but it's also made from milk so that's really cool about it's actually one of my favorite ones
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um that tastes most similarly to milk for me Breyers has Brands Lactaid as
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brand so many you can just walk up and down the aisles and there's so many options
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Fairlife has one I like theirs a lot I love their life Fair life and I need I was gonna say I feel like you're pushing
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Fair life I'm not getting paid to say this I really do love for your life I have like some kind of Fairlife product
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probably every single day whether it's like I use their milk for my lattes it has more protein in it than like regular
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milk does um their protein shakes that are impossible to find but so delicious that are also
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lactose free so that's really great for those who like protein supplements but can't tolerate the regular stuff if
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for whatever reason whether it's lactose intolerance a dairy allergy or ethical reasons or just taste wise you decide
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you want to switch to like a milk alternative that's always an option there's tons out there these days like almond milk oat milk soy milk all of
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those um so I want to quickly run through the differences there and just like calories and protein which disclaimer here when
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it comes to intuitive eating um our our food choices should go beyond
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protein in calories and also take into account budget and taste and what's available so we say this just for
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information only like you can make these choices for whatever reasons you want but people do always ask at least me
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personally like what's the best milk to drink and of course I give my whole Spiel what I just said but
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um we'll kind of break it down so almond milk is the lowest calorie version it also has the least amount of protein
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it's like for about a cup like 60 calories one gram of protein that one is Diet culture's favorite
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people love almond milk because it's so low calorie but like we've explained when you remove
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that Dairy which again it's always your choice but you're probably losing a lot of protein
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um it could be fortified but you could also be losing calcium and vitamin D so
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yeah you're consuming less calories but you're also losing a lot of other nutrients as well
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um oat milk is very popular these days and it's one of my favorite Alternatives um I think Emily you agree with that I
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love oat milk I do too it's really good especially in coffees like lattes um pretty similar calorie Wise It's like
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130 for a cup about three grams of protein so also relatively low in protein but again like if you're getting
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protein otherwise from other things don't sweat it um soy milk is the most similar in terms
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of calories and protein it's got about eight grams of protein which is about what a cup of milk has so that could be
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a good option if you don't want to or you don't tolerate milk and you want to have an alternative that's very similar
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and then lastly rice milk we have listed here which is also similar calorie wise
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about 110 per cup but also very low in protein like the almond milk is at about one gram
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so I guess bottom line with all that is choose what works for you taste and
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budget wise and all that like they're all very different but um whatever you don't get from milk they
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also taste you can get they're all so different yeah exactly it's not
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something that like like Hannah said it's past the calories and protein yeah we're just sharing with you for like a
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comparison because people always ask yeah but like I use them differently too like I will use like cow's milk in my
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cereal but I probably would use oat milk for like a latte I probably wouldn't use oat milk for a bowl of cereal
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it just depends on taste and what I have in the fridge yeah and like I like to get like fun flavored
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stuff like Trader Joe's has their like Maple oat beverage I love so good yes
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yeah yeah um I got their pumpkin one this year and that wasn't as good I was kind of sorry
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I was gonna ask you how it was I haven't been getting them as much it was decent
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um they also have what is it it's like a oh my gosh it's like a brown sugar maple
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oh creamer coffee creamer that one's really good ooh okay is it like in the
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small box yeah I've had that one that was good that was good that was really good so yeah like I don't choose it because
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it's oh and not dairy it just has a fun flavor and it's good in coffee or chai Lattes or whatever
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and like say you do like someone in my case who has issues with dairy and I
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choose a dairy-free product that doesn't mean that like dairy's bad that's yeah
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I don't View Dairy as bad at all yes there are things that don't make me feel
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great but that doesn't mean it's a bad product it just means maybe there are some things I should avoid eating
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because it doesn't agree with my body and that's okay it doesn't mean that I'm gonna go
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screaming on social media that Darius the devil and just because you don't get
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us all it's yeah I'm I'm one person and my one experience doesn't mean that
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it's gonna like change the whole thing like yeah there's a way to avoid foods and
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also happen tolerances and allergies and you don't need to view the food as good versus bad
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yeah it's just like oh I I can still we could we clearly still listed benefits
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of dairy but the pros and cons of every they're pros and cons to everything like every food
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because it's not as just black and white like if I had a peanut allergy I wouldn't be like telling
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everyone to avoid peanuts because they're the devil it's just I personally can't but I can thankfully again I need to like knock on
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wood a lot today because I was telling Ross the other day I was like if I ever developed with food intolerance I'm gonna be real bummed out
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because I love eating so much at least I guess like lactose would be
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my first choice because there are like lactase pills you can take that I know isn't the best thing to do yeah but it
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helps versus like gluten like oh yeah it would suck yeah or like peanuts
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like an actual allergy like not not allergies that stresses me out are we
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eggs oh that would be terrible my heart goes out to anyone who has that kind of thing
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because that really sucks yeah really sucks
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so that's Dairy bottom line I kind of I guess to kind of like bring a lot of points into a couple
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quick sentences um it's up to you whether or not you choose to eat dairy like I choose to
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Emily does to a certain extent we don't push it on our clients if that's of your concern not that anyone
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listening to this probably has that concern but the trolls do you can choose to eat it or choose not
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to and you can choose not to for any reason whether it's an intolerance an allergy an ethical reason or you just
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don't want to you don't like the taste or you like literally if you have no reason that's okay too as long as you're
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not pushing that idea onto others telling them it's not healthy just because you choose not to drink it or eat it only you get to choose what's on
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your plate and your glass just make sure that your reason for choosing Dairy or not choosing Dairy
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isn't rooted in diet culture and fear I think that's all I think you covered it yeah the only other thing only other
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thing what you already said we're going to re-emphasize it and if you don't eat dairy there are other ways to get those
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nutrients and health benefits we talked about before it's not like they're we're pushing that Dairy
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and I have milk in every meal no you you can get those nutrients from other sources as well yeah there's other foods
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that have calcium in them yes okay so uh for our bonus question
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there's obviously a few ways I could have gone I was gonna do like what percent of milk but I think like everyone already knew
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that answer we've discussed it before that we both have some I was like what's the best milk alternative I had a few ways to go bad
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but I figured we'd discuss all those things earlier in the episode so the bonus question I chose is what's the
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best milk flavor so like plain milk chocolate milk strawberry milk I've seen
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like banana milk vanilla milk I saw on Tick Tock or Instagram the other day like apple pie a la mode milk
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so there's all kinds of flavors I don't know what your experience or how far you've gone the milk taste tests
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but what is the best milk flavor I'm I've not tried a lot of these I feel
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like the farthest I've gone is maybe banana yeah I've never had vanilla milk I've never heard of that yeah I think I
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would sell it like little cartons huh interesting but I'm a chocolate milk girly I love
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chocolate milk so much the cold chocolate milk tastes so good
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it's it's so good it's one of my favorites
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that's my answer too like I know it's boring but it's so good I love to put
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um espresso in mine like coffee and chocolate milk together is so good oh
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oh yeah you taught me the hot chocolate and coffee combination oh yeah different
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composition but you know similar concept same idea I recently I posted it on my
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membership but I mixed hot cocoa mix in some like half and half and like made
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like a chocolate sweet foam and put it over cold brew that sounds so good yeah it was really
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good that's my thing lately is like making new drinks like that that's so fun so fun that's the fun
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thing about coffee you can like do all these different things I know there's always new creamers to try and
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if there's not you can like make your own different stuff at home you could do I do like I'll do cold brew
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one day I'll do a latte the next day I'll do like a hot cup the next day like I totally mix it up almost every day
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I'm not the person who has like a routine like same coffee every morning it's always different
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it's fun it's fun it'll work well for our coffee shop that we open yes
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yeah with all the dogs in our podcast playing on the what's it called the
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overcome yeah yeah
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I don't know that we'd make really good background noise no maybe we can if there's like a friend of our who's who's
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an up-and-coming artist who could play their music and then we could have our podcast corner where an episode is
42:39
playing yeah that'd be fun that's a better idea okay
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anyway that was kind of a boring bonus question that's the best I could do today sorry guys I was just trying to like stay fun that was that was a good
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question I think it was a good thing if we like were milk enthusiasts a little bit more
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I mean I love me some milk but I don't just like drink milk except for chocolate no oh I have a question okay
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now we're just gonna really deter do you know those straws maybe 10 years
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ago that would have them made of cereal were they made a cereal but they were
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like flavored and yeah purposely oh I just I never knew what they were made of I think so like they
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had like fruit loops flavored ones all kinds of stuff yeah the one I had access
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to were like all like fruit flavored but you were you were supposed to like drink them with milk yeah
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so I feel like if we had someone who was like really passionate about that and then like maybe mixing the milks
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with the straw that oh yeah oh yeah like a strawberry milk with like uh I don't
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know or like a chocolate cereal oh yeah
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it's like chocolate strawberry I just don't know how much flavor you get from the straw when you're just drinking
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through it unless they actually crunch into it that's true but then you can't use it to
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suck up anymore if you chew on it yeah yeah there's a reason those aren't
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really popular anymore no but they were a fun idea they were fun remember grip-its did you ever get those
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are those like the little Cheez-Its little yeah they had Cheez-Its they had like Chips Ahoy kind of things I love
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those so much they say that are smaller I don't know why well it's like more surface level yeah maybe surface area
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surfacer it's like like uh the many M Ms are so
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much better than regular M M's yeah so we hope you enjoyed our Dairy episode
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and we hope you learned something new today thanks for tuning in
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and let us know what your favorite flavor of milk is yeah or if it's a
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different one we didn't mention we always say let us know I was thinking today we got to figure out
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like I tried to like look on the website I'm thinking I might put like a submission thing on the website where
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you can like either answer a bonus question with us submit like a future episode request
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um or just like generally ask the question is there a way to add like you know how blog posts have comments is
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there a way to like add a specific question under oh probably our episode page like and be like what is your fave
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like and have it on that page yeah yeah definitely okay we'll do that instead of
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just saying let us know because you always can DMS but yeah I don't know if
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you feel comfortable enough being like I like banana milk we love those we yeah if you did we
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would love that but I get it if you don't want to do that yeah okay stay tuned I'll work on that behind
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the scenes go check it out whenever we link the episode links on our Instagram Pages that's where you'll hopefully find
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a forum for you to discuss all right bye guys thanks for listening thank you so
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